Oh please. Any chance of a rational debate on this topic without using terms like "rape" and "we built it" and similar arrant nonsense? Any comparison with .us is clearly spurious as anyone who is aware of the history of that domain space will be well aware. I would suggest that a better comparison would be with .de, a TLD that has always operated a flat domain space. For a country of ~80 million people, they seem to be managing pretty well with their ~10 million domain names. Translate that to Australia, a country of ~20 million people with ~1 million domain names and it is abundantly clear that there is ample space within a flat .au domain space for many years of growth at the current rate. Personally, I think registrations should be allowed at the second level under .au. I believe that, not because I stand to gain personally from such a change, though I would like a shot at lawrence.au, but because I think that it would provide a considerably more distinctly Australian internet brand than our current standard offering, .COM.au, which always seems, in my experience, to be short-handed to .COM. If KRE had adopted the British/Kiwi model and gone with .co.au, then I think I'd have a different opinion, though there still seems to be one too many dots in that for my liking. I think that there are some reasonable arguments that can be mounted against a change of this nature, which I'd be keen to debate with any adults remaining on this list that wish to do so. BTW Adrian - congrats on the UAE deal. Good to see another Australian high tech company winning deals in the global market. Jon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sean K. Finn" <Sean.Finn§ozservers.com.au> To: ".au DNS Discussion List" <dns§dotau.org> Sent: 29 June 2007 00:16:40 o'clock (GMT) Europe/London Subject: Re: [DNS] Australia registers more .au than .com domains Apart from Adrian benefiting, will anyone other than the registrars and registries benefit? You are the caretaker of .au, act accordingly, try not to rape that which has been enTRUSTed to you. -----Original Message----- From: dns-bounces+sean.finn=ozservers.com.au§dotau.org [mailto:dns-bounces+sean.finn=ozservers.com.au§dotau.org] On Behalf Of Adrian Kinderis Sent: Friday, 29 June 2007 8:20 AM To: .au DNS Discussion List Subject: Re: [DNS] Australia registers more .au than .com domains Please open up .au just so I get to read more of this enthralling rhetoric. Adrian Kinderis Chief Executive Officer AusRegistry International Pty Ltd Level 8, 10 Queens Road Melbourne. Victoria Australia. 3004 Ph: +61 3 9866 3710 Fax: +61 3 9866 1970 Email: adrian§ausregistry.com Web: www.ausregistryinternational.com -----Original Message----- From: dns-bounces+adriank=ausregistry.com.au§dotau.org [mailto:dns-bounces+adriank=ausregistry.com.au§dotau.org] On Behalf Of Chris Bell Sent: Friday, 29 June 2007 1:22 AM To: .au DNS Discussion List Subject: Re: [DNS] Australia registers more .au than .com domains No! Don't! To open 1st LD .AU domains is to misunderstand the significant role that we played in the creation of this whole catastrophe in the first place - to misunderstand why the 2LDs were birthed and where they were borne from. And why. We inherited our .AU infrastructure as a result of our involvement in the initial deployment of the Internet. It's not our structure that needs correcting, it's the TLD itself. The whole DNS system was designed around redundancy, and what would survive in a post-apocalyptic context. Commercialising it is akin to breaking out the 4WD Ladas on a snow-laden CSKA Moscow pitch - impressive, but pointless. .AU used to be over-regulated, but now it's very competitive. I can't see any justification for further de-regulation at this time that won't undermine the value of all the domains that the rest of you have been holding onto and profiting from. Many of you are paying premium for the likes of M.I.T. to "manage" your domains. But many of you want to increase your margins. You could lose all of that. Everything. Once .com.au becomes un-regulated as .au - the likes of DNA will pounce, this time legitimised. The .AU part will become almost irrelevant. Sure, the Eneticas and NetRegistries will make their 10% margin, but the consequences... You will damn the market forever. It's all very nice to say that the TLD can buy back a 2LD if necessary - but that's simply not realistic. You're either in or you're out. Once the TLD is in, the 2LD is out. And I'm out too. One policy that we've stuck by, all along, is that com.au has to be registered to a trading entity. That policy has served us well and I see no reason to change it. cb -- P.S. j'vens'cule, vos'toires d'merde ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --- List policy, unsubscribing and archives => http://dotau.org/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --- List policy, unsubscribing and archives => http://dotau.org/ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- List policy, unsubscribing and archives => http://dotau.org/Received on Thu Jun 28 2007 - 23:45:58 UTC
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