As a follow-up, I just received a IRA renewal notice today for one of my own
domains that expires in NOV 2002.  No doubt, everyone is as well.

Look at the wording ....
"For the security of your domain you are now required to provide your
registry key to make any changes to your .com.au registration (including
renewal of the name with us). "

Chas Cleland

----- Original Message -----
From: "AUSCITY" <auscity&#167;auscity.com.au>
To: <dns&#167;lists.auda.org.au>
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: [DNS] Interesting IRA


> I have a new IRA story from one of my clients today. It's unbelievable!
>
> We registed a new .com.au for our client in Aug 2000
>
> IRA send out a renewal notice in SEP 2001 and the client paid it - $251
for
> two years - this was part of their "get a free .biz domain name).
>
> IRA send out another invoice to our client today - $251 and a request for
> the Registry Key (which I have thank God and the client doesn't). So I
check
> the expiry date at INWW and its 24th Aug 2002.  That's right, this year.
IRA
> never renewed the registration.
>
> Called IRA and they say sorry about the second Invoice - "we must have
> doubled up" and they go on to say they need the Registry Key before the
> renewal can take place.  I say, "Not on your life are you going to get the
> Registry Key", and they say they "cannot renew the domain without it".
>
> I ask what happens about the $251 already paid - we'll accept a refund and
> they so, "Not likely - that was part of the terms and conditions.  Just
> provide us with the Registry Key so we can renew the domain".
>
> So I say I will get the client to contact the ACCC and they so, "That's
> fine".
>
> BTW, a check to see if the client received their .biz (WHOIS at IRA site)
> revealed it is 'available to register'.
>
>
> Chas Cleland
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ron Stark" <ronstark&#167;businesspark.com.au>
> To: <dns&#167;lists.auda.org.au>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 1:11 PM
> Subject: RE: [DNS] Interesting IRA
>
>
> > One of my clients received a renewal notice today from IRA, now in my
> > possession.
> >
> > They proudly proclaim to be "a fully licensed channel partner of
Melbourne
> > IT", and offer to "renew your domain name through us until February
2005"
> >
> > As far as I know, such renewal can't even be done this far ahead of the
> > expiry date.  Doesn't this then constitute misrepresentation?  As does
the
> > claim of being a "channel partner" as there is no such thing as far as I
> can
> > recall.
> >
> > Comments please from MIT / auDA / legal boys.
> >
> > Ron Stark
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: C.L Ginge [mailto:cyrille.lefevre&#167;scifi-art.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, 22 May 2002 12:46 PM
> > To: dns&#167;lists.auda.org.au
> > Subject: RE: [DNS] Intresting IRA
> >
> >
> > Hello David,
> >
> > Do you think that one day a company would go to the point of sending a
> > renewal notice like 24 hours after the domain name was registered ?
> > Or what about picking names at random in the yellow pages and sending
> > renewal notices for domain names that haven't been registered yet ?
> >
> > One a more serious note, fortunately resellers educate their clients and
> > provide them the necessary information ( ACCC contact details... ) to
take
> > action immediately.
> > The best part i think is that they never learn, you would think that
> seeing
> > companies going to the federal court would scare a few apprentices from
> the
> > scam side of the force, it doesn't look like that.. sometimes it looks
> like
> > they're asking for it..
> >
> >
> > Best Regards
> > Ginge
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Support [mailto:support&#167;saintspc.com.au]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 12:11 PM
> > To: dns&#167;lists.auda.org.au
> > Subject: [DNS] Intresting IRA
> >
> >
> > Well now I am impressed. I have just this morning received a posted
> renewal
> > notice for my Own domain name saintspc.com.au
> >
> > They are certainly getting ahead of the world and it would be very risky
> to
> > pay them.
> >
> > I mean my domain name does not expire till Feb 2003 thats a full 9
months
> > ahead of the actual renewal date.
> >
> > I mean whos to know that in 9 months they are anyone will still be
around
> > and have payed the fee for this to happened!
> >
> > I mean no wonder there is Confusion in the market place People just
don't
> > know with all this stuff going around! We can only hope that auDA can
stop
> > all this when they finally get full control of the .au and the policies
> that
> > all these companies must follow.
> >
> > My $0.02 worth
> >
> > David Uzzell
> > Saints PC Pty Ltd
> >
> > PS I mean I have posted here in the past and you would think to get no
> > reaction they would have removed all of those that post here from their
> list
> > of people to send this stuff to!
> >
> >
> >
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