One of our clients also received this same letter from IRA.   for a .com.au
domain.

Even with the ACCC action  etc,  these shabby, deceptive  and misleading
practices continue.  When is it all going to stop?

Personally, I can't wait for the new auDA regime.  The current system ain't
working -  but I fear that these practices will continue under the new
system.


Regards
Richard




----- Original Message -----
From: "AUSCITY" <auscity&#167;auscity.com.au>
To: <dns&#167;lists.auda.org.au>
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 11:48 AM
Subject: Re: [DNS] Interesting IRA


> As a follow-up, I just received a IRA renewal notice today for one of my
own
> domains that expires in NOV 2002.  No doubt, everyone is as well.
>
> Look at the wording ....
> "For the security of your domain you are now required to provide your
> registry key to make any changes to your .com.au registration (including
> renewal of the name with us). "
>
> Chas Cleland
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "AUSCITY" <auscity&#167;auscity.com.au>
> To: <dns&#167;lists.auda.org.au>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 1:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [DNS] Interesting IRA
>
>
> > I have a new IRA story from one of my clients today. It's unbelievable!
> >
> > We registed a new .com.au for our client in Aug 2000
> >
> > IRA send out a renewal notice in SEP 2001 and the client paid it - $251
> for
> > two years - this was part of their "get a free .biz domain name).
> >
> > IRA send out another invoice to our client today - $251 and a request
for
> > the Registry Key (which I have thank God and the client doesn't). So I
> check
> > the expiry date at INWW and its 24th Aug 2002.  That's right, this year.
> IRA
> > never renewed the registration.
> >
> > Called IRA and they say sorry about the second Invoice - "we must have
> > doubled up" and they go on to say they need the Registry Key before the
> > renewal can take place.  I say, "Not on your life are you going to get
the
> > Registry Key", and they say they "cannot renew the domain without it".
> >
> > I ask what happens about the $251 already paid - we'll accept a refund
and
> > they so, "Not likely - that was part of the terms and conditions.  Just
> > provide us with the Registry Key so we can renew the domain".
> >
> > So I say I will get the client to contact the ACCC and they so, "That's
> > fine".
> >
> > BTW, a check to see if the client received their .biz (WHOIS at IRA
site)
> > revealed it is 'available to register'.
> >
> >
> > Chas Cleland
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ron Stark" <ronstark&#167;businesspark.com.au>
> > To: <dns&#167;lists.auda.org.au>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 1:11 PM
> > Subject: RE: [DNS] Interesting IRA
> >
> >
> > > One of my clients received a renewal notice today from IRA, now in my
> > > possession.
> > >
> > > They proudly proclaim to be "a fully licensed channel partner of
> Melbourne
> > > IT", and offer to "renew your domain name through us until February
> 2005"
> > >
> > > As far as I know, such renewal can't even be done this far ahead of
the
> > > expiry date.  Doesn't this then constitute misrepresentation?  As does
> the
> > > claim of being a "channel partner" as there is no such thing as far as
I
> > can
> > > recall.
> > >
> > > Comments please from MIT / auDA / legal boys.
> > >
> > > Ron Stark
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: C.L Ginge [mailto:cyrille.lefevre&#167;scifi-art.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, 22 May 2002 12:46 PM
> > > To: dns&#167;lists.auda.org.au
> > > Subject: RE: [DNS] Intresting IRA
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello David,
> > >
> > > Do you think that one day a company would go to the point of sending a
> > > renewal notice like 24 hours after the domain name was registered ?
> > > Or what about picking names at random in the yellow pages and sending
> > > renewal notices for domain names that haven't been registered yet ?
> > >
> > > One a more serious note, fortunately resellers educate their clients
and
> > > provide them the necessary information ( ACCC contact details... ) to
> take
> > > action immediately.
> > > The best part i think is that they never learn, you would think that
> > seeing
> > > companies going to the federal court would scare a few apprentices
from
> > the
> > > scam side of the force, it doesn't look like that.. sometimes it looks
> > like
> > > they're asking for it..
> > >
> > >
> > > Best Regards
> > > Ginge
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Support [mailto:support&#167;saintspc.com.au]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 12:11 PM
> > > To: dns&#167;lists.auda.org.au
> > > Subject: [DNS] Intresting IRA
> > >
> > >
> > > Well now I am impressed. I have just this morning received a posted
> > renewal
> > > notice for my Own domain name saintspc.com.au
> > >
> > > They are certainly getting ahead of the world and it would be very
risky
> > to
> > > pay them.
> > >
> > > I mean my domain name does not expire till Feb 2003 thats a full 9
> months
> > > ahead of the actual renewal date.
> > >
> > > I mean whos to know that in 9 months they are anyone will still be
> around
> > > and have payed the fee for this to happened!
> > >
> > > I mean no wonder there is Confusion in the market place People just
> don't
> > > know with all this stuff going around! We can only hope that auDA can
> stop
> > > all this when they finally get full control of the .au and the
policies
> > that
> > > all these companies must follow.
> > >
> > > My $0.02 worth
> > >
> > > David Uzzell
> > > Saints PC Pty Ltd
> > >
> > > PS I mean I have posted here in the past and you would think to get no
> > > reaction they would have removed all of those that post here from
their
> > list
> > > of people to send this stuff to!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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