Hey Rod

I'm also an member and I share your respect for the folks at auDA, but that's not the point.

This list pre-dates auDA and has always been independent thereof.

I refer you to Rob Taylor's point below, which is pretty pertinent, IMO.  

I think it's important to have an outlet for people concerned about .au domains to have their say, that is not controlled by auDA.

I realise there are other lists/forums that arguably achieve this, but I think this list is worth keeping, as an independent, .au-focused list.

But, that's just my opinion.

cheers
jon

----- Original Message -----
From: "Info" <info at cheaperdomains.com.au>
To: ".au DNS Discussion List" <dns at dotau.org>
Sent: Wednesday, 26 March, 2014 11:35:22 PM
Subject: Re: [DNS] Should this list continue to exist?

Jon,
I don't think as a member of Auda and knowing the people involved I 
don't think Auda hosting the list would be a political issue. To be fair 
to Auda they do have a balanced view and have a respect of the past to 
the .au history.
I don't always agree with Auda but overall they do a good job.
Having said that as a hosting provider of some size I would as the CEO 
of the Total Internet Group be happy to host the DNS list going forward 
as a service to the net community in Australia.
Let me know if you want this to happen Kim?
Rod Keys


On 26/03/14 11:09 PM, Jon Lawrence wrote:
> Rod
>
> I agree that keeping the archives live is valuable.  I'd prefer to keep them independent of auDA, however.
>
> For those that aren't aware, full list archives (right back to 1996) are here: www.dotau.org
>
> jon
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rod Keys" <info at ddns.com.au>
> To: ".au DNS Discussion List" <dns at dotau.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, 26 March, 2014 11:02:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [DNS] Should this list continue to exist?
>
> Sean,
> I am talking about the historical records which can be found if you
> Google certain things the old DNS discussion list appears and yes I have
> some old skeletons in the cupboard but I think the history is worth
> keeping for the sake of history of the internet in Australia.
>    I am sure a lot of the pioneers of this industry would join me in
> keeping the archived forums live for the future of the net in .au and if
> you like the generation who will follow.
> I urge Auda to take over the data on behalf of the stakeholders of the
> net in .au
> Kim you have done a wonderful job over the years running the list and I
> for one have had great enjoyment making comments and watching the net
> grow in Australia.
> Archive the list under auda.org.au/history.dnslist.
> Thanks,
> Rod Keys
>
>
>
>
> On 26/03/14 10:19 PM, Sean Finn wrote:
>> Then who would watch the watchers?
>>
>> We're silent now because, I'd assume, there's not too much beef with the
>> job AuDA is performing. If this were ever to change, would AuDA tollerate
>> criticism?
>>
>> -Sean.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 8:00 PM, Rod Keys <info at ddns.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>> Maybe Auda could host it for historical reasons?
>>> Rod Keys
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 26/03/14 8:20 PM, Rob Taylor wrote:
>>>
>>>> One note of possible caution - In .UK there was a 'nom-steer' list much
>>>> like this, quite quiet and dormant much of the time but very useful as and
>>>> when it was needed.
>>>>
>>>> Nominet then 'improved' things by closing it and moving to a vbulletin
>>>> system inside their online services, and the reach & debate appears to be
>>>> all but nullified.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Rob
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 26 March 2014 09:11, Sean Finn <sean at wikwok.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>    I think it should stay asleep for great justice just in case it needs to
>>>>> get resurrected.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Sean.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 5:45 PM, Tom Minchin <tom.minchin at gmail.com
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>    Yeah. Pull the pin.
>>>>>> On 26/03/2014 3:04 PM, "Kim Davies" <kim at cynosure.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    For those not familiar with this list's history, it was started in the
>>>>>>> mid-1990s and was the location where the seminal discussion on .AU
>>>>>>> happened. The discussion involved key members of the nascent Internet
>>>>>>> community in Australia, and was the hub of activity that lead to the
>>>>>>> creation of auDA to manage the the .AU space.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Today the list if effectively dormant. auDA does not use it to
>>>>>>> disseminate
>>>>>>> or discuss issues relating to .AU, and there are little in the way of
>>>>>>> community discussion here on .AU. For example, auDA saw fit to report
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> the AusNOG mailing list about DNSSEC initiatives in .AU, but not here
>>>>>>> (http://lists.ausnog.net/pipermail/ausnog/2014-March/023181.html)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'd like to pose the question whether this forum should be retired.
>>>>>>> There is certainly no problem sustaining its existence if it continues
>>>>>>> to fulfil a purpose. However, it may be its time has come after 20
>>>>>>> years
>>>>>>> and is no longer a needed part of the community.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'd appreciate members' thoughts.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> kim
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