I don't think auDA reply directly to stuff on the list very often. It's best
to email them questions like this ;)

> From: Jason Pay <jasonpay&#167;au1.ibm.com>
> Reply-To: dns&#167;lists.auda.org.au
> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 09:28:52 +1000
> To: dns&#167;lists.auda.org.au
> Subject: RE: [DNS] auDA media release
> 
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> Can auDA confirm that it is ok to do transfers if the registrant has
> aggreed via a T&C aggreement which states that the reseller can transfer
> the registrants domain name to a registrar of the resellars choice at any
> time without the registrants explicit concent.
> 
> I would think that a "signed" aggreement between the resellar and the
> registrant defining the reseller as the managment authority for the domain
> would be an appropriate measure. Maybe auDA can sanction some sort of
> process by which a resellar can have "Managment" authority over registrants
> domain names if the registrant aggress at the point of domain regiatration
> or after via a eform / fax / or hard copy of authorisation.
> 
> Regs,
> 
> Jason Pay
> 
>> No problems... I consider that the customer giving us Management control
>> of the domain is 'opt-in'.
>> Thanx for clearing that up.
>> 
>> ...Skeeve
>> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ian Smith [mailto:smithi&#167;nimnet.asn.au]
> Sent: Thursday, 19 June 2003 6:21 AM
> To: Kim Davies
> Cc: dns&#167;lists.auda.org.au
> Subject: Re: [DNS] auDA media release
> 
> 
> On Wed, 18 Jun 2003, Kim Davies wrote:
> 
>> Skeeve Stevens wrote:
> [..]
>>> As we have been given the management role of those to look after
> them, I  > > already consider us to have implicit permission, but I
> thought that they  > > should be informed and given a 'opt out'.  > >
>>> Does auDA see any problems with this?
>> 
>> As a "consumer", I have a problem with this. I would rather see you
> get
>> _explicit_ permission from your customer that you have the right to
>> change their registrar (I assume that is what you meant?). Otherwise,
> 
>> your proposal sounds something very easily abused.
> 
> Indeed.  As I read the new policy - of which I was blissfully unaware
> until Chris posted the advisory about an abuse of it; my fault for not
> keeping up I guess - and particularly the ACCC's comments on the draft,
> it seems that the protection of the registrant's control over his, her
> or its domain licence has won out on this one (applause for AuDA ..)
> 
>> An email with a short opt-out time frame is ripe for abuse. Email is
> an
>> unguaranteed medium, you could be sending the emails to the wrong
>> address etc. It should be opt-in, not opt-out.
> 
> If I'm reading the policy right, it is opt-in only by the registrant.
> 
>> In these areas I definately think it is important to side with the
>> consumer awareness rather than open loopholes.
> 
> Yes.  I've just forwarded the new policy to one interested registrant.
> 
> The ability to transfer without having to renew is worthy too, methinks.
> 
>> kim
>> (speaking for myself as usual)
> 
> Cheers, Ian
> (having noone else I could even pretend to speak for)
> 
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