As a follow up to this post, I am pleased to announce that Wayne has
indeed agreed to remove me from his list. He has also expressed a desire
for me to make an apology for badmouthing his business practices (which
I have refused to do). I have requested an apology from him, which he
has not given either. He also disagrees with my interpretation of our
discussion. We have agreed to disagree on our recollections of an event
which took place some 6 months ago.

The most interesting part was that Wayne has agreed to remove anyone who
wishes to contact him. Anyone else plagued by these intrusions can
contact Wayne via email - wayne§t3direct.com.au

His direct quote so you can understand the nature of his offer is as
follows;
"I would prefer that you be aware that I am prepared to honour any
legitimate request for removal, not some all§anydomain.com.au because we
both know that many people actually like getting offers in the their
mail box - real, virtual or internet.". 
I won't comment any further on that.

Many thanks Richard for your assistance on this one. I suppose at the
end of the day the proof will be in (or not in) my mailbox, but thanks
at this early stage, we'll wait and see what happens.

I for one will be a much happier 'net user when we see the back of spam.

Dave Hooper


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Keeves [mailto:richard§ibc.com.au] 
> Sent: Wednesday, 8 May 2002 6:02 PM
> To: dns§lists.auda.org.au; spam§server.waia.asn.au; Wayne Mansfield
> Subject: Re: [DNS] SPAM MAIL
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Dave,
> 
> This is interesting.  I know Wayne Mansfield. At a recent 
> SPAM debate in Perth, he said that he always honours requests 
> for removal from the list. For him to laugh at you and to 
> refuse goes against what he has said. Having said that,  it 
> is not out of character.  Many people in the audience have 
> had trouble getting off his lists.
> 
> I shall forward this email on to the Western Australian 
> Internet Association SPAM list  and also to Wayne Mansfield.  
> he may well reply directly to you. Or he may continue to 
> ignore your requests.
> 
> 
> Cheers
> Richard Keeves
> 
> 
> ps  I am on the executive of the WAIA -  we are currently 
> developing a spam policy, the draft of which will be released 
> within a few weeks.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave Hooper" <dave&#167;davehooper.net>
> To: <dns&#167;lists.auda.org.au>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 3:34 PM
> Subject: RE: [DNS] SPAM MAIL
> 
> 
> > The only problem is contacting him is that he doesn't have 
> a problem 
> > with Spam. I have spoken to him (I posed as someone being 
> interested 
> > in one of his 'products' and he called me) and he laughed 
> in my face, 
> > told me spam was not only legal but also profitable. When I 
> asked him 
> > to remove me from his list he refused.
> >
> > I'd love to be able to sue the pants off this smug bastard.
> >
> > Dave Hooper
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Ginger Fish [mailto:ginger-fish&#167;scifi-art.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, 8 May 2002 5:23 PM
> > > To: dns&#167;lists.auda.org.au
> > > Subject: RE: [DNS] SPAM MAIL
> > >
> > >
> > > Ok, forget about the Sasha Joke :
> > >
> > > After sending a few of my agents gingerFISHing for information, i 
> > > have something that may interest you guys :
> > >
> > > The guy behind those manuals and the script book is a guy called 
> > > Wayne Mansfield. he is based in perth .
> > >
> > > His personal email address is wayne&#167;t3direct.com.au
> > >
> > > Gee, good thing i started that private investigation business a 
> > > while ago, it pays !
> > >
> > > Ginger Holmes
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Ginger Fish [mailto:ginger-fish&#167;scifi-art.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 7:01 PM
> > > To: dns&#167;lists.auda.org.au
> > > Subject: RE: [DNS] SPAM MAIL
> > >
> > >
> > > I got that too.
> > > I bet you Sasha doesn't get all that spam :>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Ginger
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Dave Hooper [mailto:dave&#167;davehooper.net]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 7:02 PM
> > > To: dns&#167;lists.auda.org.au
> > > Subject: RE: [DNS] SPAM MAIL
> > >
> > >
> > > Welcome to the 'Sales Script Books' nightmare. You will soon also 
> > > receive the 'Phone Sense' one, the 'Blitz Marketing' one, 
> the 'Power 
> > > Selling' one (my favorite) and the 'Web Marketing' one.
> > >
> > > According to 
> > > http://www.webdesigners.net.au/community_newsletter_issue_11.php 
> > > (Item
> > > 2) you can thank Web Central for allowing this to go on.
> > >
> > > If anyone knows of a way to deal with this I'd be 
> delighted to hear 
> > > about it. I have kept a dossier of these spam emails over 
> the past 
> > > few months, and have a collection of thousands, all from the same 
> > > mob, www.t3direct.com.au
> > >
> > > I HATE SPAM.
> > >
> > > Dave Hooper
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Ian&#167;Lemonstone [mailto:auda§lemonstone.com.au]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, 8 May 2002 4:53 PM
> > > > To: dns&#167;lists.auda.org.au
> > > > Subject: [DNS] SPAM MAIL
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > It seems I have now started to receive spam to my mail
> > > address set up
> > > > only for use with this list ie auda&#167;lemonstone.com which is
> > > not used
> > > > anywhere else ever. I am not very happy about this.
> > > >
> > > > "A fantastic new selling tool..... and it has hit the 
> market like 
> > > > a rocket. Sales Script Books have been responsible for 
> documented 
> > > > increases in sales totalling millions of dollars. Now updated  
> > > > with many new entries. "
> > > >
> > > > What steps are being taken to protect consumers by auDA
> > > from this type
> > > > of abuse especially with regards to the whois database 
> and email 
> > > > addresses?
> > > >
> > > >