Chris,

That's the whole point. It could probably happen in about an hour if the
will was there. Sadly, I don't think it is.

Dave.

]-----Original Message-----
]From: Chris Disspain [mailto:ceo§auda.org.au]
]Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2001 1:20 PM
]To: dns§auda.org.au
]Subject: RE: [DNS] auDA web site
]
]
]Thanks Dave. That's a good idea. Probably the easiest way to do
]would be for
]us to simply put all the relevant information together somewhere
]on the auDA
]site and have the link point there. I'll work o it but please don't expect
]it to happen tomorrow ;-)
]
]Regards,
]
]Chris Disspain
]CEO - auDA
]ceo§auda.org.au
]+61-3-9349-4711
]www.auda.org.au
]
]
]-----Original Message-----
]From: Dave Hooper [mailto:dave§davehooper.net]
]Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2001 13:05
]To: dns§auda.org.au
]Subject: RE: [DNS] auDA web site
]
]Chris,
]
]Hears a solution. Get this industry working for you.
]
]1. Ask for donations of design for a site which explains, in clear english
](unlike some of the verbosity which goes on in here) the message you are
]trying to get across.
]2. Ask for someone to design a neat, small button link which every 'decent'
]domain retailer and can place on their site.
]3. Link the utton in point 2 to the site in point 1, and away you go. A
]cheap, highly affective solution to the issue.
]
]I'm sure most would agree to place such a linked button on their
]sites if it
]meant dealing with the 'undecent' companies which are the subject of
]discussion here.
]
]Dave Hooper.
]
]]-----Original Message-----
]]From: Chris Disspain [mailto:ceo§auda.org.au]
]]Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2001 12:58 PM
]]To: dns§auda.org.au
]]Subject: RE: [DNS] auDA web site
]]
]]
]]Don,
]]
]]I did not suggest that we lacked "sufficient funding for managed
]]advertising
]](of calls for public comment etc.)"  I made no mention of public
]]comment and
]]it is not correct to suggest that auDA cannot fund such processes.
]]
]]I said that auDA does not, at present, have the funds to
]instigate a public
]]awareness campaign which by necessity would be scatter-gun in its
]approach.
]]There is a difference. Soon we will be commencing our 'education campaign'
]]to inform people about the new changes etc. When we do that we
]will also be
]]able to deal with existing practices.
]]
]]As for approaching NOIE, whilst I cannot speak for them, my
]]understanding is
]]that they support a self-regulatory system that is self funded. A
]]self-regulatory system, by definition does not have a legislative
]]basis from
]]which to operate but regulates itself.
]]
]]Volunteers were offered the opportunity to be a registry operator. The
]]tender was open to everyone.
]]
]]I do not think your linking of volunteer registry operators and voluntary
]]actions of ISPs is valid. ISPs/re-sellers are in business. One of the
]]fundamental tenets of good business (at least from my point of
]]view) is that
]]an opportunity to contact your customers (to place you at the
]'top of their
]]mind') is very valuable. I would have thought that most
]re-sellers and ISPs
]]would have welcomed the opportunity to have a good reason to contact their
]]customers and keep them informed. Further, and perhaps far more
]]importantly,
]]it is those very re-sellers and ISPs who are losing customers to the
]]'sharks'. Surely the tiny cost of emailing their database with relevant
]]educational information is worthwhile. Apart from anything else,
]]it's simply
]]good customer service. This does not mean that they sould stop complaining
]]to us, ACCC and so on. It just means that a little pro-activity
]wouldn't go
]]astray.
]]
]]It is not auDA's role to market the .au domain name space to any great
]]degree. auDA is the policy body. It will be the role of the Registry
]]Operators which is why the RFT asks the specific questions;
]]
]]"Give details of the Respondent's proposed Marketing Plan pursuant to the
]]Registry Licence Agreement." and,
]]"Give details of the Respondent's capacity to contribute to the
]development
]]of the domain name industry in Australia."
]]
]]Regards,
]]
]]
]]Chris Disspain
]]CEO - auDA
]]ceo§auda.org.au
]]+61-3-9349-4711
]]www.auda.org.au
]]
]]
]]-----Original Message-----
]]From: Don Cameron [mailto:donc§mudgeeab.com.au]
]]Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2001 11:59
]]To: dns§auda.org.au
]]Subject: Re: [DNS] auDA web site
]]
]]Hi all,
]]
]]Firstly, thank you Chris for your responses. A degree of frustration has
]]been communicated in recent postings, and the courtesy and grace
]with which
]]you reply is welcomed and appreciated.
]]
]]Like Ron I am not 'against' auDA in these matters, however there
]]are obvious
]]challenges to be faced, and the continuance of repetitious themes
]outlining
]]the reasons why things cannot be done, sadly only gives rise to further
]]frustration - it's a vicious circle (the dreaded loop in a bad piece of
]]code), however one that will not be broken without open appraisal and
]]analysis of all the available options.
]]
]]I have recently posted on the possibility of NOIE taking a more proactive
]]role in some of these issues, and noting your own comments to the effect
]]that you lack sufficient funding for managed advertising (of calls for
]]public comment etc.), and that you also lack the legislative basis to
]]enforce community protection policies, would it be a 'bad thing'
]]to approach
]]NOIE for legislative assistance and input?
]]
]]Another of the loops we seem to be stuck in involves the matter of
]]volunteer
]]administration of .org and .asn etc. On one hand we are presented with the
]]argument that volunteers should not be offered these entities, because the
]]formalities of commercial tendering is paramount to competition,
]yet on the
]]other hand we are told that it is only through the voluntary 'good
]]grace' of
]]ISP's that any of these other issues will be addressed. Can we really have
]]it both ways? - ISP's are quite entitled to charge for distributing auDA
]]correspondence, and understandably may well wish to do so
]considering their
]]own costs are likely to increase through implementation of the competitive
]]model (even though these cost will undoubtedly be passed-on to
]]customers for
]]items such as .org.au domains etc.).
]]
]]In closing, I forwarded a posting a few days ago requesting information on
]]auDA's long-term marketing strategies and the vision for the .au
]namespace.
]]Accepting the Competition Advisory Panel's findings were
]]undoubtedly subject
]]to a brief during which this was discussed, is such a document
]available? -
]]If possible I would like to get an overview of where we are
]]heading, so some
]]of these administrative matters can be assessed in the context of exactly
]]what it is we are trying to achieve.
]]
]]Regards, Don
]]
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