Jean and all,

Jean-Christophe Praud wrote:

> Jeff Williams wrote:
> >
> > Chris and all,
> >
> > Chris Chaundy wrote:
> >
> > > On Sun, 21 Jun 1998, Jeff Williams wrote:
> > >
> > > >   I suppose you are referring to me in this comment.  That is fine, but you are
> > > > a bit off base with you comment, if I may say so.  First of all the
> > > > InterNic's Whois facility does not just query the InterNics Database.  It also
> > > > query's the 13 Legacy Root servers as well and any other Sub Domains that
> > > > are known to those 13 Legacy Root servers.  That comprises about 98.5%
> > > > of all the known DN's that are registered.  So I find your conclusion very
> > > > misleading or you are misunderstood my previous posts on this subject.
> > >
> > > Can you provide an example of this?
> >
> >   Example of what EXACTLY?  Please be specific.
> >
>
> Well .fr isn't recognized, either...
>
> [root§yogsothoth /root]# whois ludexpress.fr
> [rs.internic.net]
> No match for "LUDEXPRESS.FR".

  Not exactly Jean.  It is under searching the Internics whois under dom-fr
to Wit;

France top-level domain FR-DOM
   AFNIC NIC France
   c/o INRIA, Domaine de Voluceau
   Le Chesnay CEDEX, 78153
   FRANCE

   Domain Name: FR

   Administrative Contact:
      Renard, Annie  AR41  Annie.Renard§INRIA.FR
      +33 01 39 63 55 92 (FAX) +33 01 39 63 55 34
   Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
      Lubrano, Philippe  PL613  Philippe.Lubrano§INRIA.FR
      +33 1 39 63 56 82 (FAX) +33 1 39 63 55 34

   Record last updated on 22-Apr-98.
   Record created on 02-Sep-86.
   Database last updated on 20-Jun-98 04:14:49 EDT.

   Domain servers in listed order:

   NS1.NIC.FR                   192.93.0.1
   NS2.NIC.FR                   192.93.0.4
   NS3.NIC.FR                   192.134.0.49
   DNS.INRIA.FR                 193.51.208.13
   NS.EU.NET                    192.16.202.11
   DNS.PRINCETON.EDU            128.112.129.15
   DNS.CS.WISC.EDU              128.105.2.10
   NS-EXT.VIX.COM               204.152.184.64


To see this host record with registered users, repeat the command with
a star ('*') before the name; or, use '%' to show JUST the registered users.

>
>
> The InterNIC Registration Services database contains ONLY
> non-military and non-US Government Domains and contacts.
> Other associated whois servers:
>    American Registry for Internet Numbers - whois.arin.net
>    European IP Address Allocations        - whois.ripe.net
>    Asia Pacific IP Address Allocations    - whois.apnic.net
>    US Military                            - whois.nic.mil
>    US Government                          - whois.nic.gov

  Correct.

>
>
> to see it, we need :
> whois ludexpress.fr§whois.ripe.net
> or
> whois ludexpress.fr§whois.nic.fr

  Not really Jean.  (See above).

>
>
> It seems ccTLD info are added by ccTLD NICs whois servers.

  Yes they are.  But they are listed and Domain name spaces, which technicaly
that is what they are.  A "Name Space" can be equated to a ccTLD, gTLD,
TLD and a subdomain in some cases.

>
>
> But whois is not DNS...

  This is true.  I have never said that it was.

>
>
> --
> Jean-Christophe PRAUD - LUDEXPRESS  http://www.ludexpress.com
> http://www.nicwine.net     http://www.nic.wine     3:213 WINE
> Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu n'gah Bill R'lyeh Wgah'nagl fhtagn

 Regards,

--
Jeffrey A. Williams
DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
E-Mail jwkckid1§ix.netcom.com