Please keep.


On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 1:43 PM, David Cake <dave at difference.com.au> wrote:

> While I have only been a member of this list in the relatively inactive
> last few years, count me in as another voice for keeping it available.
>
> Even should auDA continue to perform its function in such a way that there
> is no reason for complaint, there may be other issues in the brave new gTLD
> world.
>
> David
>
> On 27 Mar 2014, at 4:54 am, Derek Whitehead <DWhitehead at swin.edu.au>
> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone
>
> I like the point that Sean made - to paraphrase: like King Arthur and his
> knights, the list should remain, awaiting the hour of need for the
> Australian DNS. In the meantime, David's wonderful weekly posting,
> occasional resorts to the archives, and even more occasional outbreaks of
> controversy, give it a useful role.
>
> Regards
> Derek
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dns-bounces at dotau.org [mailto:dns-bounces at dotau.org] On Behalf Of
> Jon Lawrence
> Sent: Thursday, 27 March 2014 12:19 AM
> To: .au DNS Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [DNS] Should this list continue to exist?
>
> Hey Rod
>
> I'm also an member and I share your respect for the folks at auDA, but
> that's not the point.
>
> This list pre-dates auDA and has always been independent thereof.
>
> I refer you to Rob Taylor's point below, which is pretty pertinent, IMO.
>
> I think it's important to have an outlet for people concerned about .au
> domains to have their say, that is not controlled by auDA.
>
> I realise there are other lists/forums that arguably achieve this, but I
> think this list is worth keeping, as an independent, .au-focused list.
>
> But, that's just my opinion.
>
> cheers
> jon
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Info" <info at cheaperdomains.com.au>
> To: ".au DNS Discussion List" <dns at dotau.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, 26 March, 2014 11:35:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [DNS] Should this list continue to exist?
>
> Jon,
> I don't think as a member of Auda and knowing the people involved I don't
> think Auda hosting the list would be a political issue. To be fair to Auda
> they do have a balanced view and have a respect of the past to the .au
> history.
> I don't always agree with Auda but overall they do a good job.
> Having said that as a hosting provider of some size I would as the CEO of
> the Total Internet Group be happy to host the DNS list going forward as a
> service to the net community in Australia.
> Let me know if you want this to happen Kim?
> Rod Keys
>
>
> On 26/03/14 11:09 PM, Jon Lawrence wrote:
> Rod
>
> I agree that keeping the archives live is valuable.  I'd prefer to keep
> them independent of auDA, however.
>
> For those that aren't aware, full list archives (right back to 1996)
> are here: www.dotau.org
>
> jon
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rod Keys" <info at ddns.com.au>
> To: ".au DNS Discussion List" <dns at dotau.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, 26 March, 2014 11:02:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [DNS] Should this list continue to exist?
>
> Sean,
> I am talking about the historical records which can be found if you
> Google certain things the old DNS discussion list appears and yes I
> have some old skeletons in the cupboard but I think the history is
> worth keeping for the sake of history of the internet in Australia.
>   I am sure a lot of the pioneers of this industry would join me in
> keeping the archived forums live for the future of the net in .au and
> if you like the generation who will follow.
> I urge Auda to take over the data on behalf of the stakeholders of the
> net in .au Kim you have done a wonderful job over the years running
> the list and I for one have had great enjoyment making comments and
> watching the net grow in Australia.
> Archive the list under auda.org.au/history.dnslist.
> Thanks,
> Rod Keys
>
>
>
>
> On 26/03/14 10:19 PM, Sean Finn wrote:
> Then who would watch the watchers?
>
> We're silent now because, I'd assume, there's not too much beef with
> the job AuDA is performing. If this were ever to change, would AuDA
> tollerate criticism?
>
> -Sean.
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 8:00 PM, Rod Keys <info at ddns.com.au> wrote:
>
> Maybe Auda could host it for historical reasons?
> Rod Keys
>
>
>
> On 26/03/14 8:20 PM, Rob Taylor wrote:
>
> One note of possible caution - In .UK there was a 'nom-steer' list
> much like this, quite quiet and dormant much of the time but very
> useful as and when it was needed.
>
> Nominet then 'improved' things by closing it and moving to a
> vbulletin system inside their online services, and the reach &
> debate appears to be all but nullified.
>
> Cheers,
> Rob
>
>
> On 26 March 2014 09:11, Sean Finn <sean at wikwok.com> wrote:
>
>   I think it should stay asleep for great justice just in case it
> needs to
> get resurrected.
>
> -Sean.
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 5:45 PM, Tom Minchin
> <tom.minchin at gmail.com
> wrote:
>   Yeah. Pull the pin.
> On 26/03/2014 3:04 PM, "Kim Davies" <kim at cynosure.com.au> wrote:
>
>   For those not familiar with this list's history, it was
> started in the
> mid-1990s and was the location where the seminal discussion on
> .AU happened. The discussion involved key members of the nascent
> Internet community in Australia, and was the hub of activity
> that lead to the creation of auDA to manage the the .AU space.
>
> Today the list if effectively dormant. auDA does not use it to
> disseminate or discuss issues relating to .AU, and there are
> little in the way of community discussion here on .AU. For
> example, auDA saw fit to report to the AusNOG mailing list about
> DNSSEC initiatives in .AU, but not here
> (http://lists.ausnog.net/pipermail/ausnog/2014-March/023181.html
> )
>
> I'd like to pose the question whether this forum should be retired.
> There is certainly no problem sustaining its existence if it
> continues to fulfil a purpose. However, it may be its time has
> come after 20 years and is no longer a needed part of the
> community.
>
> I'd appreciate members' thoughts.
>
> kim
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