[DNS] who really is the biggest?

[DNS] who really is the biggest?

From: Larry Bloch <larry.bloch§netregistry.com.au>
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 20:05:26 +1000
...and maybe an equally proportioned ego (like the rest of us ;)


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-----Original Message-----
From: dns-bounces+larry.bloch=netregistry.com.au&#167;dotau.org
[mailto:dns-bounces+larry.bloch=netregistry.com.au&#167;dotau.org] On Behalf Of
Rod Keys
Sent: Friday, 22 May 2009 5:21 PM
To: .au DNS Discussion List
Subject: Re: [DNS] who really is the biggest?

I think at that point we did have more .au than netfleet.


David Lye wrote:
> Hi Rod,
>
> Do you think claiming the title of the 'biggest whatever' means you are an
ego maniac?
>
> I remember this line on the home page of Domain Market Place
>
> "The addition of these names takes our total number of domains for sale to
over 3,700! This makes Domain Trading Post the largest Australian domain
name aftermarket (sorry Netfleet, we've over taken you!).... "
>
> Here's the link -
http://www.domainmarketplace.com.au/aftermarket-news/14-over-2100-new-domain
-names-listed-for-sale/
>
> Regards
>
> David Lye
> Netfleet P/L
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>>    1. who really is the biggest? (Rod Keys)
>>    2. Re: who really is the biggest? (Larry Bloch)
>>    3. Re: who really is the biggest? (Josh Rowe)
>>    4. Re: who really is the biggest? (Adrian Kinderis)
>>    5. auDA Staff and Salaries (Michael Purse)
>>    6. Re: auDA Staff and Salaries (Brendan Lewis)
>>    7. One rule for all? Safenames Ltd becomes accredited.
>> (Larry Bloch)
>>    8. Re: One rule for all? Safenames Ltd becomes accredited.
>> (Rod Keys)
>>    9. Re: One rule for all? Safenames Ltd becomes accredited.
>>       (Chris Disspain)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 08:39:41 +1000
>> From: Rod Keys <info&#167;ddns.com.au>
>> To: ".au DNS Discussion List" <dns&#167;dotau.org>
>> Subject: [DNS] who really is the biggest?
>> Message-ID: <4A15D82D.9080008&#167;ddns.com.au>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>
>> Aust domain claim on their email footer
>>
>> AustDomains.com.au | 1300 420 420
>>
>> "Australia's Largest Domains & Hosting Network"
>>
>> Netregistry claims to be the biggest according to their website?
>>
>> Melbourne IT claims not to be the biggest but mention 5
>> million names under management
>>
>> Can we start a ladder so the ego maniacs can see where they
>> stand if it's that important.
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 09:34:35 +1000
>> From: "Larry Bloch" <larry.bloch&#167;netregistry.com.au>
>> To: "'.au DNS Discussion List'" <dns&#167;dotau.org>
>> Subject: Re: [DNS] who really is the biggest?
>> Message-ID: <03b501c9da6c$b3117a40$19346ec0$&#167;bloch§netregistry.com.au>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> Hi Rod,
>>
>> Online Growth Solutions Ltd (Netregistry + PlanetDomain) as a
>> group register the most new .au registrations on a monthly
>> basis and are neck and neck with Melbourne IT for total .au
>> domains under managment, but overtaking them rapidly (if not already)
>>
>> As a single Registrar, AustDomain registers the most .au
>> names on a monthly basis. Their names under management is way
>> behind MIT and NR.
>>
>> If we start a ladder of ego maniacs, we should find a measure
>> for that. Not sure Domains is representative ;)
>>
>> rapidly.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Larry Bloch | CEO | Online Growth Solutions Ltd
>>
>> Netregistry | PlanetDomain | NETT Magazine | Hostess
>>
>> Direct: ???????????? 02 9641 8636
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>> Email: ????????????? larry.bloch&#167;netregistry.com.au
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>>
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: dns-bounces+larry.bloch=netregistry.com.au&#167;dotau.org
>> [mailto:dns-bounces+larry.bloch=netregistry.com.au&#167;dotau.org]
>> On Behalf Of Rod Keys
>> Sent: Friday, 22 May 2009 8:40 AM
>> To: .au DNS Discussion List
>> Subject: [DNS] who really is the biggest?
>>
>> Aust domain claim on their email footer
>>
>> AustDomains.com.au | 1300 420 420
>>
>> "Australia's Largest Domains & Hosting Network"
>>
>> Netregistry claims to be the biggest according to their website?
>>
>> Melbourne IT claims not to be the biggest but mention 5
>> million names under management
>>
>> Can we start a ladder so the ego maniacs can see where they
>> stand if it's that important.
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 10:17:50 +1000
>> From: Josh Rowe <josh&#167;email.nu>
>> To: ".au DNS Discussion List" <dns&#167;dotau.org>
>> Subject: Re: [DNS] who really is the biggest?
>> Message-ID: <20090522001750.GA2601&#167;whim.sanctum.com.au>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>>
>> Rod & Larry,
>>
>> I suggest that a range of measures may be useful to provide
>> comparisons between the different domain name and web hosting
>> companies.
>>
>> I am happy to host such a list on whatsinaname.com.au so that
>> it is independant of any commercial bias.
>>
>>
>> Josh
>> --
>> http://josh.id.au/
>>
>> On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 09:34:35AM +1000, Larry Bloch wrote:
>>> Hi Rod,
>>>
>>> Online Growth Solutions Ltd (Netregistry + PlanetDomain) as a group
>>> register the most new .au registrations on a monthly basis and are
>>> neck and neck with Melbourne IT for total .au domains under
>> managment,
>>> but overtaking them rapidly (if not already)
>>>
>>> As a single Registrar, AustDomain registers the most .au names on a
>>> monthly basis. Their names under management is way behind
>> MIT and NR.
>>> If we start a ladder of ego maniacs, we should find a measure for
>>> that. Not sure Domains is representative ;)
>>>
>>> rapidly.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Larry Bloch | CEO | Online Growth Solutions Ltd
>>>
>>> Netregistry | PlanetDomain | NETT Magazine | Hostess
>>>
>>> Direct: ???????????? 02 9641 8636
>>> Mobile: ?????????? 0411 545 118
>>> Personal Fax: ? 02? 80790741
>>> Email: ????????????? larry.bloch&#167;netregistry.com.au
>>>
>>>
>>> T +61 2 9699 6099 | F +61 2? 9699 6088|
>> http://www.netregistry.com.au
>>> PO Box 270 Broadway, NSW 2007, Australia
>>>
>>> Domain Names | Email Solutions | Web Hosting | Dedicated Hosting |
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>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: dns-bounces+larry.bloch=netregistry.com.au&#167;dotau.org
>>> [mailto:dns-bounces+larry.bloch=netregistry.com.au&#167;dotau.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Rod Keys
>>> Sent: Friday, 22 May 2009 8:40 AM
>>> To: .au DNS Discussion List
>>> Subject: [DNS] who really is the biggest?
>>>
>>> Aust domain claim on their email footer
>>>
>>> AustDomains.com.au | 1300 420 420
>>>
>>> "Australia's Largest Domains & Hosting Network"
>>>
>>> Netregistry claims to be the biggest according to their website?
>>>
>>> Melbourne IT claims not to be the biggest but mention 5
>> million names
>>> under management
>>>
>>> Can we start a ladder so the ego maniacs can see where they
>> stand if
>>> it's that important.
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 10:23:28 +1000
>> From: Adrian Kinderis <adrian&#167;ausregistry.com.au>
>> To: ".au DNS Discussion List" <dns&#167;dotau.org>
>> Subject: Re: [DNS] who really is the biggest?
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>>
>> Let's not forget the monthly reports (without names) and the
>> quarterly reports (with names) that are posted on the
>> AusRegistry website (www.ausregistry.com.au)
>>
>> Adrian Kinderis
>> Chief Executive Officer
>> AusRegistry Pty Ltd
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>> Melbourne. Victoria Australia. 3004
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: dns-bounces+adrian=ausregistry.com.au&#167;dotau.org
>> [mailto:dns-bounces+adrian=ausregistry.com.au&#167;dotau.org] On
>> Behalf Of Josh Rowe
>> Sent: Friday, 22 May 2009 10:18 AM
>> To: .au DNS Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [DNS] who really is the biggest?
>>
>> Rod & Larry,
>>
>> I suggest that a range of measures may be useful to provide
>> comparisons between the different domain name and web hosting
>> companies.
>>
>> I am happy to host such a list on whatsinaname.com.au so that
>> it is independant of any commercial bias.
>>
>>
>> Josh
>> --
>> http://josh.id.au/
>>
>> On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 09:34:35AM +1000, Larry Bloch wrote:
>>> Hi Rod,
>>>
>>> Online Growth Solutions Ltd (Netregistry + PlanetDomain) as a group
>>> register the most new .au registrations on a monthly basis and are
>>> neck and neck with Melbourne IT for total .au domains under
>> managment,
>>> but overtaking them rapidly (if not already)
>>>
>>> As a single Registrar, AustDomain registers the most .au names on a
>>> monthly basis. Their names under management is way behind
>> MIT and NR.
>>> If we start a ladder of ego maniacs, we should find a measure for
>>> that. Not sure Domains is representative ;)
>>>
>>> rapidly.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Larry Bloch | CEO | Online Growth Solutions Ltd
>>>
>>> Netregistry | PlanetDomain | NETT Magazine | Hostess
>>>
>>> Direct: ???????????? 02 9641 8636
>>> Mobile: ?????????? 0411 545 118
>>> Personal Fax: ? 02? 80790741
>>> Email: ????????????? larry.bloch&#167;netregistry.com.au
>>>
>>>
>>> T +61 2 9699 6099 | F +61 2? 9699 6088|
>> http://www.netregistry.com.au
>>> PO Box 270 Broadway, NSW 2007, Australia
>>>
>>> Domain Names | Email Solutions | Web Hosting | Dedicated Hosting |
>>> eCommerce
>>> | Online Marketing
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: dns-bounces+larry.bloch=netregistry.com.au&#167;dotau.org
>>> [mailto:dns-bounces+larry.bloch=netregistry.com.au&#167;dotau.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Rod Keys
>>> Sent: Friday, 22 May 2009 8:40 AM
>>> To: .au DNS Discussion List
>>> Subject: [DNS] who really is the biggest?
>>>
>>> Aust domain claim on their email footer
>>>
>>> AustDomains.com.au | 1300 420 420
>>>
>>> "Australia's Largest Domains & Hosting Network"
>>>
>>> Netregistry claims to be the biggest according to their website?
>>>
>>> Melbourne IT claims not to be the biggest but mention 5
>> million names
>>> under management
>>>
>>> Can we start a ladder so the ego maniacs can see where they
>> stand if
>>> it's that important.
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 12:07:48 +0930
>> From: Michael Purse <pursey&#167;gmail.com>
>> To: ".au DNS Discussion List" <dns&#167;dotau.org>
>> Subject: [DNS] auDA Staff and Salaries
>> Message-ID:
>>      <9d1dbfab0905211937r621a8581t48caed1d07dfdbe5&#167;mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>
>> Not sure why I haven't thought about this earlier:
>>
>> auDA now has 7 staff and according to the budget, they cost
>> auDA $944,000 per annum and then $482,000 in "technical",
>> which is significantly higher than the figures from a few
>> years ago. Staff costs were $650,000 and included a lot of
>> the technical line. How does this nearly double? I can also
>> recall auDA having 3-4 staff including Chris.
>>
>> Why has this increased so dramatically? Is there actually
>> this much more workload? I can't see how there could be this
>> much of an increase in workload for auDA other than the work
>> they've created for themselves recently. It almost seems like
>> the increase in spending on this line is simply because the
>> money is there. Wouldn't it make more sense for auDA fees
>> simply to be reduced some more rather than doubling staff numbers?
>>
>> I also wonder whether these staff are fulltime or not, and
>> would be interested (but probably wont find out) what kind of
>> remuneration they're on.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 6
>> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 12:43:30 +1000
>> From: Brendan Lewis <blewis&#167;l2i.com.au>
>> To: ".au DNS Discussion List" <dns&#167;dotau.org>
>> Subject: Re: [DNS] auDA Staff and Salaries
>> Message-ID: <4A161152.3030303&#167;l2i.com.au>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>
>> Michael,
>> The correct place to discuss that is at auDA's AGM.
>>
>> However in my experience at previous AGM's not one was
>> particularly interested in discussing the topic.  Nor why
>> travel was so high, or why multi-million dollar investments
>> were structured so that they no longer appeared in the accounts.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Brendan
>>
>>
>>
>> Michael Purse wrote:
>>> Not sure why I haven't thought about this earlier:
>>>
>>> auDA now has 7 staff and according to the budget, they cost auDA
>>> $944,000 per annum and then $482,000 in "technical", which is
>>> significantly higher than the figures from a few years ago. Staff
>>> costs were $650,000 and included a lot of the technical
>> line. How does
>>> this nearly double? I can also recall auDA having 3-4 staff
>> including
>>> Chris.
>>>
>>> Why has this increased so dramatically? Is there actually this much
>>> more workload? I can't see how there could be this much of
>> an increase
>>> in workload for auDA other than the work they've created for
>>> themselves recently. It almost seems like the increase in
>> spending on
>>> this line is simply because the money is there. Wouldn't it
>> make more
>>> sense for auDA fees simply to be reduced some more rather than
>>> doubling staff numbers?
>>>
>>> I also wonder whether these staff are fulltime or not, and would be
>>> interested (but probably wont find out) what kind of remuneration
>>> they're on.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
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>> Message: 7
>> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 16:24:41 +1000
>> From: "Larry Bloch" <larry.bloch&#167;netregistry.com.au>
>> To: "'.au DNS Discussion List'" <dns&#167;dotau.org>
>> Subject: [DNS] One rule for all? Safenames Ltd becomes accredited.
>> Message-ID: <057901c9daa5$fdaaad90$f90008b0$&#167;bloch§netregistry.com.au>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> Could auDA please explain how Australian companies are unable
>> to obtain accreditation, how the auDA website tells all that
>> Accreditation is closed, and yet a foreign company gains an
>> accreditation two days ago:
>>
>> http://blog.safenames.com/cctld-country-code-top-level-domain/
> safenames-beco
>> me-the-first-european-registrar-to-attain-an-australian-regist
>> rar-accreditat
>> ion
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Larry Bloch | CEO | Online Growth Solutions Ltd
>>
>> Netregistry | PlanetDomain | NETT Magazine | Hostess
>>
>> Direct: ???????????? 02 9641 8636
>> Mobile: ?????????? 0411 545 118
>> Personal Fax: ? 02? 80790741
>> Email: ????????????? larry.bloch&#167;netregistry.com.au
>>
>>
>> T +61 2 9699 6099 | F +61 2? 9699 6088|
>> http://www.netregistry.com.au PO Box 270 Broadway, NSW 2007, Australia
>>
>> Domain Names | Email Solutions | Web Hosting | Dedicated
>> Hosting | eCommerce
>> | Online Marketing
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>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 8
>> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 16:31:54 +1000
>> From: Rod Keys <info&#167;cheaperdomains.com.au>
>> To: ".au DNS Discussion List" <dns&#167;dotau.org>
>> Subject: Re: [DNS] One rule for all? Safenames Ltd becomes accredited.
>> Message-ID: <4A1646DA.40405&#167;cheaperdomains.com.au>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>
>> There is also domain bandit
>>
>>
>> Larry Bloch wrote:
>>> Could auDA please explain how Australian companies are unable to
>>> obtain accreditation, how the auDA website tells all that
>>> Accreditation is closed, and yet a foreign company gains an
>> accreditation two days ago:
>>>
>> http://blog.safenames.com/cctld-country-code-top-level-domain/safename
>>> s-beco
>>>
>> me-the-first-european-registrar-to-attain-an-australian-registrar-accr
>>> editat
>>> ion
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Larry Bloch | CEO | Online Growth Solutions Ltd
>>>
>>> Netregistry | PlanetDomain | NETT Magazine | Hostess
>>>
>>> Direct:              02 9641 8636
>>> Mobile:            0411 545 118
>>> Personal Fax:   02  80790741
>>> Email:               larry.bloch&#167;netregistry.com.au
>>>
>>>
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>> ------------------------------
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>> Message: 9
>> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 16:57:26 +1000 (EST)
>> From: "Chris Disspain" <ceo&#167;auda.org.au>
>> To: "'.au DNS Discussion List'" <dns&#167;dotau.org>
>> Subject: Re: [DNS] One rule for all? Safenames Ltd becomes accredited.
>> Message-ID: <02b901c9daaa$8e1ef9e0$aa5ceda0$&#167;org.au>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> Because they were provisionally accredited before we closed
>> for applications and have now moved to fully accredited status.
>>
>> Chris Disspain
>> CEO - auDA
>> au Domain Administration Ltd
>> ceo&#167;auda.org.au
>> www.auda.org.au
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>>> bounces+ceo=auda.org.au&#167;dotau.org] On Behalf Of Larry Bloch
>>> Sent: Friday, 22 May 2009 16:25
>>> To: '.au DNS Discussion List'
>>> Subject: [DNS] One rule for all? Safenames Ltd becomes accredited.
>>>
>>> Could auDA please explain how Australian companies are unable to
>>> obtain accreditation, how the auDA website tells all that
>>> Accreditation is
>> closed,
>>> and yet a foreign company gains an accreditation two days ago:
>>>
>>>
>> http://blog.safenames.com/cctld-country-code-top-level-domain/
> safenames-be
>> co
>> me-the-first-european-registrar-to-attain-an-australian-regist
>> rar-accredit
>> at
>>> ion
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Larry Bloch | CEO | Online Growth Solutions Ltd
>>>
>>> Netregistry | PlanetDomain | NETT Magazine | Hostess
>>>
>>> Direct: ???????????? 02 9641 8636
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