Geez - read my post. A transfer *against* policy is something every registrar will have to cop flak for if they do it. That's what I said. I'm not supporting any breach of policy - we have rules and we all need to play on the same field - whatever it is. I'm pretty clearly against auDA yanking Bottle's accreditation in the way they did. And I'm against registrars holding their tongue and hoping it's not them in the firing line. I have consistently been for registrars getting together and supporting each other in the interests of the industry and our customers. Not something I can do by myself (won't stop me trying though). Does nobody think it a little odd and unsettling that auDA can simply de-accredit a business that has been operating for years with tons of customers using their services? Without any kind of review or appeal process other than the courts? Or are we happy with auDA potentially spending millions on a settlement - money that comes from you and your customers? Regards, Larry Bloch | CEO | Online Growth Solutions Ltd Netregistry | PlanetDomain | NETT Magazine | Hostess Direct: ???????????? 02 9641 8636 Mobile: ?????????? 0411 545 118 Personal Fax: ? 02? 80790741 Email: ????????????? larry.bloch§netregistry.com.au T +61 2 9699 6099 | F +61 2? 9699 6088| http://www.netregistry.com.au PO Box 270 Broadway, NSW 2007, Australia Domain Names | Email Solutions | Web Hosting | Dedicated Hosting | eCommerce | Online Marketing -----Original Message----- From: dns-bounces+larry.bloch=netregistry.com.au§dotau.org [mailto:dns-bounces+larry.bloch=netregistry.com.au§dotau.org] On Behalf Of Ron Stark Sent: Tuesday, 12 May 2009 6:21 PM To: '.au DNS Discussion List' Subject: Re: [DNS] Bottle breaches policy I suspect it's rather more than simply transferring domain names. There is also the issue of transferring significant assets from one corporate entiry to another, without clients' permission. Can the registrant trust the new entity? Does it have substance? Does it have a track record? Or is it a manoevre to pre-emptiveley transfer assets? Given the litigation in progress I must admit that I'd be rather skeptical of Bottle's motives. Larry, I'm disquieted by your apparent support of what appears to be a blatant breach of contract. Do you allow your own customers to get away with it, if they happen to disagree with your rules? Ron Stark -----Original Message----- From: dns-bounces+ronstark=snapsite.com.au§dotau.org [mailto:dns-bounces+ronstark=snapsite.com.au§dotau.org] On Behalf Of Larry Bloch Sent: Tuesday, 12 May 2009 17:34 To: '.au DNS Discussion List' Subject: Re: [DNS] Bottle breaches policy Seriously, a transfer breach is a transfer breach - when we do it we all have to cop it. But if registrars think that they can rub their hands in glee over Bottle's de-accreditation by auDA, you should remember that it could be your business next. I'm on Bottle's side on this because it is bullying tactics, its arbitrary, and it could be any one of us next. I'm not standing up for the rights of downtrodden registrars, I'm standing for the right of my business to not be threatened by de-accreditation (and ensuing oblivion) over a matter that doesn't warrant it. I'm pretty bemused as to why I'm the only one. Surely you don't want a regulator that destroys businesses and employment with little notice for questionable reasons just because it can. If auDA is unaccountable, it will do as it pleases regardless of the consequence - because there will be no consequence. Regards, Larry Bloch | CEO | Online Growth Solutions Ltd Netregistry | PlanetDomain | NETT Magazine | Hostess Direct: ???????????? 02 9641 8636 Mobile: ?????????? 0411 545 118 Personal Fax: ? 02? 80790741 Email: ????????????? larry.bloch§netregistry.com.au T +61 2 9699 6099 | F +61 2? 9699 6088| http://www.netregistry.com.au PO Box 270 Broadway, NSW 2007, Australia Domain Names | Email Solutions | Web Hosting | Dedicated Hosting | eCommerce | Online Marketing -----Original Message----- From: dns-bounces+larry.bloch=netregistry.com.au§dotau.org [mailto:dns-bounces+larry.bloch=netregistry.com.au§dotau.org] On Behalf Of Rod Keys Sent: Tuesday, 12 May 2009 3:42 PM To: .au DNS Discussion List Subject: [DNS] Bottle breaches policy FYI http://www.auda.org.au/news-archive/auda-12052009/ Now we just have to sit back and watch Larry Blocks publicity machine do it's thing to stand up for the rights of downtrodden registrars. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- List policy, unsubscribing and archives => http://dotau.org/ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- List policy, unsubscribing and archives => http://dotau.org/ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- List policy, unsubscribing and archives => http://dotau.org/Received on Tue May 12 2009 - 04:45:20 UTC
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