On Tue, 29 Aug 2006, Ron Stark wrote:

 > All of Vic's arguments and rationale appear to stem from a single premise -
 > "If it's not illegal and it makes money and it can be done, then I should be
 > allowed to do it".  Well, we already have one Perth personality who
 > subscribed to that very philosophy;  recent history suggests that it might
 > run in the family.  
 > 
 > Oh - there's occasionally a caveat - "... and nobody gets hurt", whatever
 > that's supposed to mean.
 > 
 > Nowhere have I seen Vic use words like "ethical", "decent", "fair",
 > "proper", "respectable", "right" or "acceptable".  Instead, people who do
 > believe that business can and should incorporate such concepts get the
 > Hammer And Sickle accusation thrown at them.
 > 
 > There's more to regulation than specific statutes.  There's more to business
 > than making an opportunistic buck whenever a gullible target happens to pass
 > by.  There's more to winning an argument than bluster and noise.  There's
 > more to debate than name-calling and imputations.
 > 
 > There's also more to this list than sounding off about one's own politics.
 > 
 > Ron Stark

Ron, thanks, bang on.  If I'd have said any of that, apart from being
accused of being traitorous commie scum who should pack up for Cuba, I'd
have been told I had zero understanding of the registrar business and
should keep my ignorant views to myself and get the hell of Vic's list. 

Cheers, Ian

 > : -----Original Message-----
 > : From: dns-bounces+ronstark=snapsite.com.au§dotau.org 
 > : [mailto:dns-bounces+ronstark=snapsite.com.au§dotau.org] On 
 > : Behalf Of Vic Cinc
 > : Sent: Tuesday, 29 August 2006 08:20
 > : To: .au DNS Discussion List
 > : Subject: Re: [DNS] free society Re: Licence Period
 > : 
 > : Tony Owen [tony§seol.net.au] wrote:
 > : > Your splitting hairs ..
 > : > 
 > : > The Australian Government (represented by the National 
 > : Office for the 
 > : > Information Econ-omy ("NOIE"), see http://www.noie.gov.au) 
 > : facilitated 
 > : > the establishment of auDA.
 > : > "the management and administration of the .au ccTLD are 
 > : subject to the 
 > : > ultimate authority of the Commonwealth of Australia".
 > : > 
 > : > So he who has the 'Ultimate Authority' sorta runs the show ....
 > : 
 > : now you are engaging in deliberate misinformation.  "sorta 
 > : runs the show" is rather distinct from actually runs the show.
 > : 
 > : the government policy is very clearly that the industry self 
 > : regulates.
 > : 
 > : so your comment that the registrars work for the government is false.
 > : using your logic everyone in tv media works for the 
 > : government, because it is the ultimate authority of the 
 > : spectrum. complete and utter garbage.
 > : 
 > : no amount of backpedaling and twisting or distorting of facts 
 > : will bring your fabrications any closer to reality.
 > : 
 > : your analogies are misleading, your understanding of the 
 > : processes involved are deeply flawed, which makes your 
 > : pontifications irritating albeit comical.
 > : 
 > : REGISTRARS DO NOT WORK FOR THE GOVERNMENT AND ARE NOT 
 > : GOVERNMENT AGENTS.
 > : 
 > : registrars are free agents who work in a free market that is 
 > : self regulated by the industry. the only power auda have over 
 > : registrars is via contract.
 > : 
 > : I am going to have to bring out my hammer and sickle branding 
 > : iron and apply it to your forehead if you keep insisting otherwise.
 > : 
 > : Vic
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