Let me just pick myself up off the floor, because this one floored me with
stupidity.

This topic has *nothing, absolutely nothing* to do with ownership, it has to
do with resale of a domain name, use those eyes and look at the subject
title.

And get back on topic.

My point was that auDA should review the IPAustralia rules to help with
writing its rules and regulations.

Just because I don't own the domain name doesn't prevent me from selling it,
however the exclusive license to use the domain name does give me the right
to sell it as part of a business, because our 'real world' laws state I can
and there is nothing anyone can do about it.

I'd like to see auDA try and prevent anyone transferring title of a domain
name to the new business owner when the business sold.

Do you really believe business would invest money in a website if they could
not sell it when they sell the business? The domain name industry would have
never taken off if that were the case, who in their right mind would dump
money into something they can't sell, or gain from, financial or otherwise?




> -----Original Message-----
> From: dns-bounces+charlie=mccormack.net.au§dotau.org [mailto:dns-
> bounces+charlie=mccormack.net.au§dotau.org] On Behalf Of Darryl (Dassa)
> Lynch
> Sent: Sunday, 16 July 2006 12:31 AM
> To: '.au DNS Discussion List'
> Subject: Re: [DNS] Secondary Market
> 
> 
> |> -----Original Message-----
> |> From: dns-bounces+dassa=dhs.org§dotau.org
> |> [mailto:dns-bounces+dassa=dhs.org§dotau.org] On Behalf Of
> |> Charlie McCormack
> |> Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 11:29 PM
> |> To: '.au DNS Discussion List'
> |> Subject: Re: [DNS] Secondary Market
> |>
> |> WTF are you on about in that post.
> |>
> |> I know a domain name is not an asset and cannot be claimed
> |> as one, simply because you don't own it, that arrogance is
> |> showing its head again, you didn't really need to go into detail.
> |>
> |> Whatever, it's far from the point, it's not about
> |> IPAustralia, but about the process and logic it uses to
> |> assign the right of usage and transfer.
> 
> If you agree a domain name is not an asset then your whole argument falls
> down.  The rights of usage and transfer are assigned by license, there are
> no
> property rights.  So glad you agree.
> 
> One could ask WTF are you on about.
> 
> Darryl (Dassa) Lynch
> 
> |> > -----Original Message-----
> |> > From: dns-bounces+charlie=mccormack.net.au§dotau.org [mailto:dns-
> |> > bounces+charlie=mccormack.net.au§dotau.org] On Behalf Of Darryl
> |> > bounces+(Dassa)
> |> > Lynch
> |> > Sent: Saturday, 15 July 2006 11:13 PM
> |> > To: '.au DNS Discussion List'
> |> > Subject: Re: [DNS] Secondary Market
> |> >
> |> >
> |> > |> -----Original Message-----
> |> > |> From: dns-bounces+dassa=dhs.org§dotau.org
> |> > |> [mailto:dns-bounces+dassa=dhs.org§dotau.org] On Behalf
> |> Of Charlie
> |> > |> McCormack
> |> > |> Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 10:37 PM
> |> > |> To: '.au DNS Discussion List'
> |> > |> Subject: Re: [DNS] Secondary Market
> |> > |>
> |> > |> It should be the same model as Intellectual Property,
> |> it falls more
> |> > |> closely to this than the stock exchange I think.
> |> > |>
> |> > |> The stock market is based on assets and turnover to name some,
> |> > |> whereas the domain name is based on exactly that, a
> |> name and the
> |> > |> right to use it online, in the same sense a registered
> |> trademark
> |> > |> allows you the right to use a name, process, plan etc
> |> for a period
> |> > |> of ten years.
> |> > |>
> |> > |> > AUDA seems to be sitting back taking their time pondering
> |> > |> the problem,
> |> > |> > which is great, that is what they are there for.
> |> > |>
> |> > |> Pondering....It costs millions, looses wars, destroys families
> |> > |> and...leaves business behind the pack, as we are seeing.
> |> >
> |> > No, it isn't property.  The domain name someone thinks of may have
> |> > some intellectual property attached to it, but only as
> |> long as they
> |> > are using it.
> |> > Think of it more like a street address.  You own the
> |> property referred
> |> > to by the address but not the address itself, that may
> |> change and is
> |> > regulated, it isn't something you can claim as an asset.
> |> >
> |> > I might live at No 1 Internet Highway, but I can't sell
> |> that address.
> |> > I can sell my property at that address and the new owner
> |> can then use
> |> > the address but I can't keep my property and sell the address for
> |> > someone else to use.
> |> >
> |> > Darryl (Dassa) Lynch
> |> >
> |> >
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