David,

I agree. In addition auda should take the link off it's website to this list
unless it is prepaired to link to other lists as well.

It should also inform people that these are not auda lists before they join.

The effect that has been created is the whole industry has been directed to
a single list. Kim is then entitled to run the list as he likes.

The fact that it's been mentioned on this list that it isn't an auda list is
pointless. The effect that auda has created is that everybody has been
directed here from the officially endorsed auda's website and kim told he
can run it as the fat cat and friends club if he likes.

This is similar effect to the government only handing out 1 TV / media
licence - to one of their mates

Really if they wanted wouldn't auda say on the site "this is not an auda
endorsed list" instead of

"The "DNS List" is an Internet mailing list that facilitates general
discussion on .au related issues. It is an unmoderated forum, and robust
debate is encouraged. A light-touch administration policy is enforced."

Brad







----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Uzzell" <david-lists&#167;uzzell.com.au>
To: <dns&#167;lists.auda.org.au>
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 11:28 AM
Subject: [DNS] DNS list


> Kim I would say to stop all this current BS just move the list!
>
> All those who were around on the DNS list before auDA was even around
> and involved in the initial auDA informal discusions will hang on and
> move with the list!
>
> Somepeople just can't get over semantics.
>
> This list is a vaulable place to get advice, help, support and to
> generally pass information between users. If you have a problem with
> that setup your own list and let people know about it and if they want
> they will join!
>
> I am happy with the passing of information and support that comes from
> this list and even the most experianced DNS guru's sometimes can still
> have problems with DNS or Registrar's or the registry and want other
> peoples advice or to see if they have had the same problems.
>
> And has been said time and time and TIME and again this list in not a
> means to get in contact with auDA, it is not auDA list, auDA provides
> the service for this list to survive. And even from what you quoted it
> says that this list is for general discusions on .au domain issues, it
> does NOT say that this list is for discussing .au namespace and auDA
> policy and website and list's. They likley have a couple of other
> private list's to encourage discussion between directors etc.
>
> And then with the move I would say that auDA would provide the same
> information on their website as THIS list werever it will be is the
> recognised .au namespace discussion list. With all the BS that flows
> back and forth on this list from time to time, I think there would be NO
> WAY that auDA would want to start up their own list.
>
> Get over it and get on with it!
>
> David
>
> PS. Thanks to David Goldstein for keeping some of us uptodate with the
> comming and goings of the current news Keep up the good work.
>
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