Thanks josh for your post and continuing to make myself amongst other budding entrepreneurs the ongoing obsession consuming your pastime-Your posting about Intras combined with your previous posting on my other company Imco confirm my thoughts that your interest lies with me and not just domain related issues. I would have advertised this latest venture to the list but would have been unanimously criticized for posting off topic. Or is anything about me on topic? Does that mean I can post what I like or is it only anything negative about me that is acceptable? Anyway that's another argument altogether. As the topic's obviously accepted here I'll promote our latest product Intras NetSecurity to potential distributors, I'll keep it short as not to waste your valuable day with useless humbo jumbo. While domains have shown to be a lucrative growth industry expanding your product range to existing and potential customers can provide extra revenue with little addition to your fixed costs. We have developed a new product Intras NetSecurity aiming to easily assist users with common security problems. We have done extensive product and market research over the last 12 months including research on affiliate adware programs. The product is currently being distributed as trial versions as a promotional campaign. The single user licence is available for $199 with no obligation to purchase upgrades. The pricing you've mentioned is for a 25 user licence business suite, this equates to $145 per licence plus $10 per month (per user) over 48 months. Something you seem to have forgotten on your posting. We are open to developing affiliate type distribution arrangements- potential distribution partners please email mail§brad.com.au A bit of food for thought Brad ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josh Rowe" <josh§email.nu> To: <dns§lists.auda.org.au> Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 6:44 PM Subject: [DNS] INTRAS NetSecurity (Brad Norrish) > Brad Norrish has started a new business called "INTRAS (Australia) Pty Ltd" > (ACN 107 068 931). > > INTRAS NetSecurity (http://www.netsecurity.com.au/) is sending out > unsolicited letters and CD-ROMs by snail mail. > > The CD-ROM claims to have virus/spyware/etc scanning and prevention > software. I have not installed the contents of the CD-ROM, so I have no > idea whether these statements are correct or not. > > Has anyone else received any communication from INTRAS NetSecurity? If so > have you installed their software and worked out what it does? Did you read > and understand the End User Licence Agreement (EULA)? What is the licence > fee for the software? > > I find it quite ironic that another one of Brad Norrish's businesses > (Internet Registrations WorldWide / SearchEx) seems to be in the spyware > provision business: http://whatsinaname.com.au/slammers/#spyware > > NetSecurity's pricing page > (http://registration.netsecurity.com.au/v1/pricing.php) says this: > > " ... > > 1. You enter into this agreement with us, Intras (Australia) Pty Ltd. If you > are entering this agreement on behalf of some other person, you warrant that > you have the authority to enter into this agreement on behalf of that > person, and you agree to be liable for all their acts and omissions. > > 2. You warrant that you are 18 years of age or over. > > 3. You are granted a 30 days trial without charge. If the software is not > uninstalled from all computers before the 30 day mark then you are liable to > pay the license fees for the software. > > 4. License fees are $3630 upfront plus $252 per month inc GST for a minimum > of 48 months - a minimum commitment of $15762 inc GST. > > 5. This contract is made in the state of Western Australia and bound by the > laws of the state of Western Australia. > > ... " > > > Here's what the snail mail letter says: > > "Dear Internet/Computer Users, > > Please find enclosed a computer CD Rom of Intras NetSecurity. > > Intras NetSecurity is designed to help you prevent worms, viruses, security > flaws, backdoor entry vulernabilities, spyware, adware, and/or Trojans to > increase the level of protection and security on your computer(s). > > I.T. security issues cost the global economy billions of dollars in direct > costs and lost productivity every year. Millions of credit cards and bank > details are stolen each year by Trojan horse programs. > > Every other week there is a new malicious worm being created by hackers. > Melissa, SoBig, and the recent MyDoom are just a few examples of worms that > have crippled millions of machines around the world. > > Intras NetSecurity can assist you in detecting these infections and ensure > the user remains immune to the ever evolving computer risks. We invite you > to download a trial licence of Intras NetSecurity without charge. There are > 25 serial codes provided on the second page of this letter which can be used > to activate Intras NetSecurity within your organisation for up to 25 users. > Intras NetSecurity will allow you to scan your computers for an immediate > report on the security issues detected. > > There is absolutely no charge for the trial use. We hope you use Intras > NetSecurity and benefit from it. To install the trial simply insert the CD > Rom into the CD Rom drive and follow the prompts. > > Regards > > Intras (Australia) Pty Ltd" > > > The NetSecurity End License Users Agreement is here: > http://www.netsecurity.com.au/terms.html > > " ... > > 7 LIMITATION OF LIABILITY > > ... > > 7.4 In no event shall Intras (Australia) Pty Ltd's total liability to you > for all damages exceed $AU50. > > ... " > > > The "nslookup" query below shows that domain name is hosted with ProWeb > Solutions (domainserv§proweb.net.au) which is run by Craig Oehlers > (http://whatsinaname.com.au/slammers/#start). > > > josh § whim [~] > nslookup > > > server ns1.domainserv.net > Default Server: ns1.domainserv.net > Address: 216.74.95.2 > > > set type=soa > > netsecurity.com.au > Server: ns1.domainserv.net > Address: 216.74.95.2 > > netsecurity.com.au > origin = ns1.domainserv.net > mail addr = domainserv.proweb.net.au > serial = 2004012806 > refresh = 28800 (8H) > retry = 7200 (2H) > expire = 3600000 (3600000) > minimum ttl = 86400 (1D) > netsecurity.com.au nameserver = ns1.domainserv.net > netsecurity.com.au nameserver = ns2.domainserv.net > ns1.domainserv.net internet address = 216.74.95.2 > ns2.domainserv.net > > > The web site looks like it has been written by "John Barker" and "Vladimir > Cvejanovic" according to the various configuration files here: > http://registration.netsecurity.com.au/v1/ > > This particular code: http://registration.netsecurity.com.au/v1/dbconf.inc > refers to a product called "emate". The domain name "emate.com.au" is > registered to Brad Norrish: > > http://whois.ausregistry.com.au/?domain=emate.com.au > > Domain Name: emate.com.au > Last Modified: 12-Jan-2004 07 > Registrar ID: R00012-AR > Registrar Name: TPP Internet > Status: ok > > Registrant: Bradley Stedman Norrish > Registrant ID: ABN 28477181616 > > Registrant ROID: C1413176-AR > Registrant Contact Name: Bradley Norrish > Registrant Email: brad§brad.com.au > > Tech ID: C1413177-AR > Tech Name: Bradley Norrish > Tech Email: brad§brad.com.au > > Name Server: ns1.domainserv.net > Name Server: ns2.domainserv.net > > > from: http://whois.ausregistry.com.au/?domain=netsecurity.com.au > > Domain Name: netsecurity.com.au > Last Modified: 28-Jan-2004 07 > Registrar ID: R00012-AR > Registrar Name: TPP Internet > Status: ok > > Registrant: Bradley Stedman Norrish > Registrant ID: ABN 28477181616 > > Registrant ROID: C1464165-AR > Registrant Contact Name: Bradley Norrish > Registrant Email: brad§brad.com.au > > Tech ID: C1464166-AR > Tech Name: Bradley Norrish > Tech Email: brad§brad.com.au > > Name Server: ns1.domainserv.net > Name Server: ns2.domainserv.net > > > from: http://whois.ausregistry.com.au/?domain=intras.com.au > > Domain Name: intras.com.au > Last Modified: Never Updated > Registrar ID: R00012-AR > Registrar Name: TPP Internet > Status: ok > > Registrant: INTRAS (AUSTRALIA) PTY LTD > Registrant ID: ACN 107068931 > > Registrant ROID: C1410249-AR > Registrant Contact Name: Technical Hostmaster > Registrant Email: info§intras.com > > Tech ID: C1410251-AR > Tech Name: Technical Hostmaster > Tech Email: info§intras.com > > Name Server: ns1.imcoserv.com > Name Server: ns2.imcoserv.com > > > from: whois.enom.com > > Registration Service Provided By: IMCO > Contact: info§imco.com > Visit: http://www.imco.com > > Domain name: intras.com > > Administrative Contact: > IMCO > Bradley Norrish (info§imco.com) > +61.892252100 > Fax: +61.892257276 > PO Box Z5439 > Perth, WA 6000 > AU > > Billing Contact: > IMCO > Bradley Norrish (info§imco.com) > +61.892252100 > Fax: +61.892257276 > PO Box Z5439 > Perth, WA 6000 > AU > > Technical Contact: > IMCO > Bradley Norrish (info§imco.com) > +61.892252100 > Fax: +61.892257276 > PO Box Z5439 > Perth, WA 6000 > AU > > Registrant Contact: > IMCO > Bradley Norrish (info§imco.com) > +61.892252100 > Fax: +61.892257276 > PO Box Z5439 > Perth, WA 6000 > AU > > Status: registrar-lock > > Name Servers: > NS1.IMCOSERV.COM > NS2.IMCOSERV.COM > > Creation date: > Expiration date: 17 Apr 2013 14:26:27 > > > ASIC extract: > > Australian Company Number: 107 068 931 > Incorporated in: WESTERN AUSTRALIA > Registration Date: 17/11/2003 > > Current Organisation Details > ---------------------------- > Name : INTRAS (AUSTRALIA) PTY LTD > Name Start: 17/11/2003 > Status : REGISTERED > Type : AUSTRALIAN PROPRIETARY COMPANY > Class : LIMITED BY SHARES > Subclass : PROPRIETARY COMPANY > > Registered Office > ----------------- > LEVEL 6 44 ST GEORGES TERRACE PERTH WA 6000 > Start Date: 17/11/2003 > > Principal Place of Business > --------------------------- > LEVEL 6 44 ST GEORGES TERRACE PERTH WA 6000 > Start Date: 17/11/2003 > > Directors > --------- > BRADLEY STEDMAN NORRISH > Appointment Date: 17/11/2003 > > Share Structure > --------------- > Class: ORD > ORDINARY SHARES > Number of Shares Issued : 100 > Total Nominal Value : 0.00 > Face Value per Share : 0.00 > Total Paid on Shares Issued : 100.00 > Total Unpaid on Shares Issued : 0.00 > Total Paid on Premiums : 0.00 > Balance of Share Premium Account : 0.00 > Number of Shares Entitled to : 0 > Average Exercised Price per Share: 0.00 > > Share Holders > ------------- > Class : ORD No. Held: 100 > Beneficially Held: YES Paid : FULLY > BRADLEY STEDMAN NORRISH > > > > I am not aware of any information which suggests that INTRAS NetSecurity is > not a bonafide virus/spyware/etc scanning and prevention product. > > Brad Norrish + friends > http://whatsinaname.com.au/slammers/ > > > Josh > -- > http://josh.id.au/ > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- - > List policy, unsubscribing and archives => http://dotau.org/ > Please do not retransmit articles on this list without permission of the > author, further information at the above URL. > > >Received on Fri Oct 03 2003 - 00:00:00 UTC
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