Good call Lucian

The commercial implications would be more relevant than the "legal" ones to
those people that invested in these types of sub-domains.
Then there is the "spirit" of the DNS - rules that work for everyone are
understood industry wide.

I wouldn't want my companies Internet assets relying on the commercial
viability of a single entity that created the sub-domain.
When people started playing with the .au space such as aus.com the "spirit"
of the DNS is undermined.

com.au
aus.com
aust.com
australia.com

mydomain.aus.com. is not acceptable to me personally and I would not
promote such a business "oppurtunity" for the sake of saving / making a few
dollars.
The DNS is still young and when IPv6 kicks in the DNS will take off.

ECHO
> My advice for any commercial organisation is to register domains in
> regulated top level spaces.

Perhaps individuals that wanted low-cost doesn't matter if I lose it
Internet
addresses then these quasi setups are Ok............

Regards
Bruce

Business Resource Development (BRD)
bruce§brd.net.au
Ph: 61 3 9818 1099
Fx: 61 3 9818 8977



----- Original Message -----
From: "Lucian Daniel Kafka" <luci&#167;conexim.com.au>
To: <dns&#167;lists.auda.org.au>
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 1:18 PM
Subject: RE: [DNS] web.id.au


> There was a discussion about this very scenario in the auda/ausregistry
.au
> launch tour. I don't remember a definite take, but (letting the legal
> details aside) there was mention of an obvious secondary issue:
>
> Similar to au.com and other subdomains of this type, except the chances of
> this happening in the .au space are much grater: I invest in my
> microsoft.web.id.au identity only to potentially find out that the parent
> domain gets cancelled (removed by authority, de-registered, expires, owner
> goes broke, etc) I have lost my identity with no right to appeal. Not to
> mention that after my shiny new domain goes on business cards and
> billboards, there is little I can do about price increases for the
> subdomain renewal.
>
> My advice for any commercial organisation is to register domains in
> regulated top level spaces.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Lucian Kafka
> www.conexim.com.au
>
> At 12:28 PM 14/06/2003 +1000, you wrote:
> >My initial reaction was he shouldn't be able to... Especially with the
> >id.au 2ld.
> >
> >But he isn't actually selling domains is he?
> >
> >If I wanted to sell joe.skeeve.net.au subdomain? Would that be illegal?
> >
> >Its not actually under the regulatory control of auDA is it?
> >
> >If I wanted go-f&#167;ck-yourself.skeeve.net.au can auDA ban that under the
> >obscene policy?
> >
> >If is indeed interesting issue.... But my gut says he isn't doing
> >anything wrong.
> >
> >...Skeeve
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Josh Rowe [mailto:josh&#167;email.nu]
> >Sent: Saturday, 14 June 2003 10:44 AM
> >To: dns&#167;lists.auda.org.au
> >Subject: [DNS] web.id.au
> >
> >
> >Here's an interesting one, Graham Webber has registered "web.id.au" and
> >is now selling web.id.au sub-domains.
> >
> >His web site suggests flowers.web.id.au, computers.web.id.au,
> >sydney.web.id.au, design.web.id.au,e, dvds.web.id.au, etc.
> >
> >Does this break any rules?
> >
> >Web Id Australia
> >http://www.web.id.au/
> >
> >"Get Your Web Id Today
> >The easiest and most affordable domain & mail product on the web. Simply
> >search for your preferred domain in the box above and click the Search /
> >Register button. Assuming your domain is available, it will be setup
> >within minutes.
> >
> >All Prices $AU & Incl GST.
> >- Affordable Alternative
> >- Instant Setup, No Waiting
> >- No Restrictions on Domain Applications
> >- Simple Management Area Available 24 Hrs 7 Days
> >- 24 Hr Email Support
> >- FREE URL Forwarding
> >- FREE Mail Forwarding
> >- Domain Prices From $19.95"
> >
> >The domain is registered by:
> >
> >Domain ROID:             D0372576-AR
> >Domain Name:             web.id.au
> >Last Modified:           17-May-2003 00:47:27 UTC
> >Registrar ID:            R00013-AR
> >Registrar Name:               Enetica
> >Status:                  ok
> >
> >Registrant:              Graham Webber
> >Registrant ID:
> >
> >Registrant ROID:         C1040255-AR
> >Registrant Contact Name: Graham Webber
> >Registrant Email:        gweb&#167;web.id.au
> >
> >Tech ID:                 C1040256-AR
> >Tech Name:               Graham Webber
> >Tech Email:              graham&#167;webcity.com.au
> >
> >Name Server:             ns1.enetica.com.au
> >Name Server IP:          203.17.36.111
> >Name Server:             ns2.enetica.com.au
> >Name Server IP:          203.17.36.4
> >
> >
> >Josh
> >--
> >http://josh.id.au/
> >
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