I can think of many cases where unfair registrations have occurred. If someone wants to hijack a name and they go to a little trouble as in setting up a business name that reasonably could use that name there is nothing to stop them. As long as they avoid making an obvious misuse they are safe. It is unfortunate but sadly it is the way life works. Perfect example is how Fairfax scored some of their domain names. Look at drive and domain, both of which were once generic names but somehow Fairfax got them. Go Figure! As my girlfriend always tells me... Get over it! John -----Original Message----- From: Tim Shahin [mailto:tshahin§senet.com.au] Sent: Wednesday, 26 March 2003 3:46 PM To: dns§lists.auda.org.au Subject: RE: [DNS] com.au Domain Names I do understand that John But when does it become unreasonable as far as registering a domain name and not using it? And how would you tell if I register a domain name just for the hell of it and to not allow some one to use it? There should be something in the policy to safe guard some one from hijacking a domain name After all, com.au is for commercial use -----Original Message----- From: John Thomson [mailto:john§hep10.com] Sent: Wednesday, 26 March 2003 16:09 To: dns§lists.auda.org.au Subject: RE: [DNS] com.au Domain Names I'll give you an example Tim Lets look at say drive.com.au Think how many businesses might want that name. driving schools business success training golf related just to name a few. Whoever gets in first owns the name. It is that simple. John -----Original Message----- From: Ron Stark [mailto:ronstark§businesspark.com.au] Sent: Wednesday, 26 March 2003 3:36 PM To: 'dns§lists.auda.org.au' Subject: RE: [DNS] com.au Domain Names It's possible to have 6 identical business names, one per State. But it's only possible to have one .com.au domain - one for Australia. Inevitably 5 legitimate businesses will miss out, even though they are all equally qualified. The first one in, by default, disqualifies their competitors. That's not a policy issue - that's competitive reality. It would be impractical and unrealistic to develop a policy that allows every business to have a domain name just because they qualify. For example, I (and you) qualify to apply to register a business name Coca Cola - but sure as hell I wouldn't get it! Ron Stark >-----Original Message----- >From: Tim Shahin [mailto:tshahin§senet.com.au] >Sent: Wednesday, 26 March 2003 4:07 PM >To: dns§lists.auda.org.au >Subject: RE: [DNS] com.au Domain Names > > >Hi MJM, >Well then, if that's the case then really the com.au is not really for >commercial use is it. Some one can then hijack a name and deprive a >legit business from using it. >Is that AUDA policy? > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Michael McKinnon [mailto:mjm§mentalpopcorn.com] >Sent: Wednesday, 26 March 2003 15:21 >To: dns§lists.auda.org.au >Subject: RE: [DNS] com.au Domain Names > > >Tim, > >It is irrelevant as to whether or not a domain name is actually >delegated or used. You never own an AU domain name, you only get a >license to use it. Anyone who meets the criteria of allocation and >eligibility (see >http://www.auda.org.au/docs/auda-2002-07.txt) for any particular AU >domain, can register for a license for that domain (provided it is >available!). > >Inevitably, some people register domain names that are never used. It >doesn't matter why they never chose to use it, they hold the license to >use and that is enough to stop anyone else using it. > >Regards...MJM > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Tim Shahin [mailto:tshahin§senet.com.au] >> Sent: Wednesday, 26 March 2003 3:42 PM >> To: dns§lists.auda.org.au >> Subject: RE: [DNS] com.au Domain Names >> >> >> I did, >> The reason I am asking is that I made a Complaint about a >domain name >> which was registered 8 month ago and has not been used. The >complaint >> failed. The domain name registered has not been redelegated or used. >> No real proof was shown for commercial use other than that they said >> that they are going to use it. >> Hence my questions............ >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: michael taylor [mailto:mtay8890§bigpond.net.au] >> Sent: Wednesday, 26 March 2003 15:02 >> To: dns§lists.auda.org.au >> Subject: Re: [DNS] com.au Domain Names >> >> >> tim goto http://www.auda.org.au/policy/ all of the info that >you want >> will all be on the site regards michael >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Tim Shahin <tshahin§senet.com.au> >> To: <dns§lists.auda.org.au> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 2:40 PM >> Subject: [DNS] com.au Domain Names >> >> >> > Hi All >> > I know I wrote about this yesterday, but could I get some >feed back >> > from some you guys who know about this allot more than me. >> > >> > Q1: When you register a domain name in com.au, should you have a >> > business already running before you register that domain name >> > or..... >> > Q2: How long do they have before they start using the domain name >for >> > commercial use >> > >> > Kind Regards >> > >> > Timothy >> > >> > >> > >-------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > -- >> > ---- >> - >> > List policy, unsubscribing and archives => >> http://www.auda.org.au/list/dns/ >> > Please do not retransmit articles on this list without >permission of > >> > the author, further information at the above URL. 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