Well Ron just effectively solved the whole problem. That's a great idea.

John


-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Stark [mailto:ronstark§businesspark.com.au]
Sent: Thursday, 6 March 2003 8:32 PM
To: 'dns§lists.auda.org.au'
Subject: RE: [DNS] Consumer Alert


Time I woke up and stuck my oar in with something I've raised before.

The solution is really easy - follow the car registration route, in which
the number plate is analogous to the domain name.

Allow resellers to sell the *initial* registration, with a reasonable
mark-up; after all, domain names are usually sold as an adjunct to other,
higher value, services.  Just like the number plate comes with the car.

All renewals are then done at a *lower* rate, and solely through a central
authority, or at worst, solely through only accredited registrars.  Just
like car registration renewals.

All of the spam around renewals will stop - there and then.  All of the
effort will then go into *new* business development, which is great for all
of us.

Ron Stark

>-----Original Message-----
>From: John Thomson [mailto:john§hep10.com]
>Sent: Thursday, 6 March 2003 8:55 PM
>To: dns§lists.auda.org.au
>Subject: RE: [DNS] Consumer Alert
>
>
>I don't like being cynical but nobody is going to clean the 
>Industry up. It
>is only a matter of time before some Gold Coast company is set up to
>telemarket to existing businesses for their domain renewal 
>business. Why?
>Simply it is an easy sell. The fear of losing a domain name 
>will make them
>easy prey and all they have to do is sign a simple form. Its 
>virtually a one
>call sell system. If any of you have telemarketing experience that
>translates to fairly easy money for the right operator.
>
>The only effective way to control it is via a controlling 
>entity that has
>power to hit them hard and fast. Auda is not that entity at 
>this stage. It
>is a toothless tiger. Yes a warning! Stop or I'll say stop 
>again. Scary! I
>agree with Richard but won't be holding my breath for it to happen. My
>advice is get used to scammers but stop blaming the wrong 
>people. There has
>barely been a mention of uregister but poor old bottle has 
>copped heaps. It
>doesn't make sense to me. It is up to Auda to say to uregister you have
>breached our policy guidelines you have 14 days to show why 
>you shouldn't be
>closed down.
>
>That's not going to happen. Until it does focus your writing 
>on making Auda
>into a tiger with bite and get off bottles back. Has uregister 
>covered this
>scam in their domain warning system? I bet not. They don't even use
>Australian hosting services so we should all be hammering them. Support
>Australian businesses and promote fair trading for all.
>
>Getting off my soapbox now. Flame away.
>
>John
>www.hep10.com
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Richard Archer [mailto:rha§juggernaut.com.au]
>Sent: Thursday, 6 March 2003 6:37 PM
>To: dns§lists.auda.org.au
>Subject: Re: [DNS] Consumer Alert
>
>
>
>>However I will raise this general point again.  Walking away from
>>organisations who have breached auDA policy in the past (as a lot of
>>them have, all be it minor), is the easy way out.
>
>What a cop out. Get some backbone and do some hard yards to clean
>up the industry on which you depend for your livelihood.
>
>Not that it should be an option. AuDA should be onto you like the
>proverbial ton for supporting rot like this. Shows just what sort
>of a job they're doing.
>
>
>>It's very easy to wipe your hands of something that's dirty.  Not so
>>easy to clean it.
>
>And it's even easier to stay dirty.
>
>I guess I'll just keep on looking forward to the next 20 junk mails
>I'm going to get from some rogue operator who is then allowed to walk
>off scott free with the profits from their little scam. And of course
>the accredited registrar they use gets to keep their share. And auDA
>gets their cut no matter what. And Ausregistry takes a slice.
>
>Everybody involved gets nicely rewarded from stuffing my PO Box with
>dead trees. There's no incentive to clean up this nonsense is there?
>
> ...R.
>
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