RE: [DNS] au.bz

RE: [DNS] au.bz

From: Kevin Fleming <kevin§w617.com>
Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 22:24:42 +1000
cripes - half the IT industry in Australia could be wiped out if 55A was
rigorously applied.

and Lotus Notes would be history :-)

K

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jon Lawrence [mailto:jon&#167;jonlawrence.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, 22 May 2002 10:15 PM
> To: dns&#167;lists.auda.org.au
> Subject: RE: [DNS] au.bz
>
>
> i don't know because I'm not a lawyer...maybe one of the many lawyers on
> this list can give us some guidance...
>
> >-- Original Message --
> >Reply-To: dns&#167;lists.auda.org.au
> >From: "C.L Ginge" <cyrille.lefevre&#167;scifi-art.com>
> >To: <dns&#167;lists.auda.org.au>
> >Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 22:08:12 +1000
> >Subject: RE: [DNS] au.bz
> >
> >
> >G'day Jon,
> >
> >so if i read correctly :
> ><<
> >55A Certain misleading conduct in relation to services
> >A corporation shall not, in trade or commerce, engage in conduct that is
> >liable to mislead the public as to the nature, the characteristics, the
> >suitability for their purpose or the quantity of any services."
> >>>
> >
> >What about .au.com ?
> >is that misleading for australian businesses ?
> >
> >On a broader note, what about all domain name extensions that have
> >.anything.au that are promoted for australian businesses ?
> >
> >Ginge
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Jon Lawrence [mailto:jon&#167;jonlawrence.com]
> >Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 9:37 PM
> >To: dns&#167;lists.auda.org.au
> >Subject: RE: [DNS] au.bz
> >
> >
> >Here is some pretty relevant legislation:
> >
> >COMMONWEALTH TRADE PRACTICES ACT 1974
> >Section 55A
> >From:
> >http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/tpa1974149/s55a.html
> >
> ><snip>
> >55A Certain misleading conduct in relation to services
> >A corporation shall not, in trade or commerce, engage in conduct that is
> >liable to mislead the public as to the nature, the characteristics, the
> >suitability for their purpose or the quantity of any services."
> ></snip>
> >
> >I never finished my law degree so I'm not sure but I wonder if
> the following
> >conditions imposed on ING in their current case with the ACCC could/would
> >have any wider relevance?
> >
> ><snip>
> >(1) it will not in Australia or elsewhere, publish, distribute,
> or display
> >material, by any means whatsoever (including electronic
> transmission and/or
> >oral communications) in which it:
> >(a) represents that the letters "bz" in the domain name ".bz" means or
> >refers
> >to "business";
> >(b) represents that registration of a domain name in the ".bz" domain
> >indicates
> >the registration of a business;"
> ></snip>
> >
> >rgds
> >jon
> >
> >>-- Original Message --
> >>Reply-To: dns&#167;lists.auda.org.au
> >>From: "C.L Ginge" <cyrille.lefevre&#167;scifi-art.com>
> >>To: <dns&#167;lists.auda.org.au>
> >>Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 21:12:33 +1000
> >>Subject: RE: [DNS] au.bz
> >>
> >>
> >>I have a question, and please forgive my ignorance.
> >>suppose I register something like www.au.tv
> >>
> >>If I claim that this is the website for Australian Television, what can
> >>possibly prevent me from making that claim ( even if it's a lie ) ?
> >>So suppose I have a au.bz website and claim that au.bz means "Australian
> >>business domain name", what can possibly prevent me from making
> that claim
> >>?
> >>sure, the Australian business name is .com.au , but on what grounds can
> >>anybody tell me that I would be wrong making that claim about au.bz ?
> (
> >now
> >>if auDA issues .biz.au , which one is the *real* Australian
> business domain
> >>name anyway ? )
> >>
> >>Now don't get me wrong, i am not attacking or defending anybody, but as
> >far
> >>as I know and if there is no Code or Law against it, anybody can design
> >and
> >>name products with whatever name they want, and if they design and name
> >>specific products with a "catchy" name, or "targeted" name, it's called
> >>marketing.
> >>
> >>So is there a code of conduct somewhere that prevents people from using
> >>.au.bz as "Australian business domain name" ..
> >>
> >>Note : on the same token, what is www.au.com exactly ? an Australian
> >>business domain name ?
> >>
> >>If some of you guys think action should be taken against au.bz, I think
> >that
> >>action should also be taken against au.com , or anything that has got
> .au
> >>in
> >>it , that is not administrated by the proper .au
> administration.Fair enough
> >>?
> >>
> >>This is all a bit confusing !
> >>
> >>Thank you for your time.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Ginge
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: C.L Ginge [mailto:cyrille.lefevre&#167;scifi-art.com]
> >>Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 8:52 PM
> >>To: dns&#167;lists.auda.org.au
> >>Subject: RE: [DNS] au.bz
> >>
> >>
> >>standard procedure, Phil :)
> >>
> >>Ginge
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Phil Wright [mailto:newsstuff&#167;network.au.com]
> >>Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 8:53 PM
> >>To: dns&#167;lists.auda.org.au
> >>Subject: RE: [DNS] au.bz
> >>
> >>
> >>And if you read their terms and conditions - you register a
> domain through
> >>their system and you give them a licence to SPAM and potentially blindly
> >>on
> >>sell your email address to whomever they wish
> >>
> >>Phil
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Kevin Fleming [mailto:kevin&#167;w617.com]
> >>Sent: Wednesday, 22 May 2002 8:30 PM
> >>To: dns&#167;lists.auda.org.au
> >>Subject: RE: [DNS] au.bz
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>haven't seen this crowd before ..
> >>
> >>It's a nice scam - I wonder how many people have been sucked in ?? Even
> >>their "Partners" have to pay up before they can re-sell..
> >>
> >>telstra.au.bz is available for registration. I wonder ??
> >>
> >>
> >>K
> >>
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Josh Rowe [mailto:josh&#167;email.nu]
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, 22 May 2002 8:17 PM
> >>> To: dns&#167;lists.auda.org.au
> >>> Subject: [DNS] au.bz
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "au.bz Internet Names means 'Australian Business'.  The new domain
> >>> extension released in 2001 is the modern alternative to the
> traditional
> >>> .com.au extension."
> >>>
> >>> http://www.business.au.bz/Information/Information.htm
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Josh
> >>> --
> >>> josh&#167;email.nu
> >>>
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