Hi Mark,

Thanks for this explanation.   It's disappointing that the info is not
available still as it makes it pretty hard to arrive at valuations.

Does anyone know if an auction site exists for aussie domain names  (other
than stuff)  that is set up to assist trade in dom names after the intro of
the new regime?  (I gather the new regime is starting sometime soon.)


Cheers
Richard Keeves



> BTW, for those wondering where the information on the generic names prices
> came from or was / is available, what happened was this:
>
> auDA outsourced the operation of the auction to stuff.com.au.  The results
> of auctions were supposed to be private.  stuff.com.au stuffed up and the
> results of some of the completed auctions were visible on the stuff.com.au
> website.  I believe that stuff.com.au has fixed the problem and the
results
> are no longer visible.
>




----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Hughes" <effectivebusiness&#167;pplications.com.au>
To: <dns&#167;lists.auda.org.au>
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 1:16 PM
Subject: RE: [DNS] Where to find?


> > I suppose this is another typical example of auDA's
> > lack of foresight.
>
> More accurately, is a typical example of auDA's good foresight combined
with
> their good understanding of the law - in both of which they were and
remain
> ahead of some of the posters to this list.
>
> auDA got the issue of other people registering similar names right.  The
> crucial points are:
>
> * The ACCC is the appropriate body if you have a complaint - not auDA.
> * auDA has no grounds for complaint, as any use of sites with similar
names
> has no detrimental effect on auDA's operations.  If someone else (i.e. a
> domain name registrant) has been misled by the operations of sites with
> similar names to auDA or AUNIC, then THAT entity has grounds for complaint
> to the ACCC.
>
>
>
> BTW, for those wondering where the information on the generic names prices
> came from or was / is available, what happened was this:
>
> auDA outsourced the operation of the auction to stuff.com.au.  The results
> of auctions were supposed to be private.  stuff.com.au stuffed up and the
> results of some of the completed auctions were visible on the stuff.com.au
> website.  I believe that stuff.com.au has fixed the problem and the
results
> are no longer visible.
>
> So auDA outsourced the auction process to a supposedly experienced
company,
> and that outsourced company apparently boo-booed.  Its more a case of "if
> stuff.com.au can't run this sort of thing it should probably be made
public
> in the major newspapers / media so that others realise they maybe they're
> not the best company to use for this sort of thing".  Its just a shame
that
> auDA happened to be the one that was using stuff.com.au's services when it
> was discovered that stuff.com.au had a problem.
>
>
> I see from AUNIC that westuffedup.com.au is unregistered - perhaps
> stuff.com.au should change their name.
>
>
> Regards, Mark
>
> Mark Hughes
> Effective Business Applications Pty Ltd
> effectivebusiness&#167;pplications.com.au
> www.pplications.com.au
> +61 4 1374 3959
>
>
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