Here is Page 2 of the DDNS document. I had someone to watch me in my sleep just in case i would sleepwalk, turn the computer on and alter that document. Fortunately, it did not happen so i am confident about the authenticity of the document. http://www.scifi-art.com/ginger-investigations/another_one_for_the_ACCC_p2.j pg As you can see , you can even have a framable certificate of OWNERSHIP like you own a domain name, yeah right ) for $20, that is a bargain and it is beautiful on the wall. Oh by the way Rod, a long time ago, my english teacher taught me that you don't write " We'll do this, We'll do that", it should "we WILL do this, we WILL do that..." otherwise it really looks tacky.. Ginger PS : you can see the date on the document, 15/04/2002, as you can see it is VERY old indeed ! -----Original Message----- From: Ginger FISH [mailto:ginger-fish§scifi-art.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 2:46 PM To: dns§lists.auda.org.au Subject: RE: [DNS] Discount Domains and the ACCC As previously stated by Rod Keys: "Mr.C.Disspain has looked at our doc and was clear it was not misleading." Do you mean : Mr Chris Disspain, CEO of auDA ( .au self regulated Administration ) agreed that you could use the subject marketing material and mass mail .au registrants that have had no previous dealings with "Domain Names Discount Services" ? If this is not what you meant, please clarify as i wouldn't want to be making baseless accusations. Best Regards Ginger -----Original Message----- From: Rod Keys [mailto:rod§ddns.com.au] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 2:13 PM To: dns§lists.auda.org.au Subject: Re: [DNS] Discount Domains and the ACCC the scanned copy was not complete and altered. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael-Pappas" <auda§michael-pappas.com> To: <dns§lists.auda.org.au> Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 2:12 PM Subject: RE: [DNS] Discount Domains and the ACCC > Rod, > > Would be interested in what you think was changed.??? > > Simply to say it was is all well and good, but it's hard to change printed > material that your customers ring you about.... > > Michael-Pappas. > > > > > > How completely ridiculous Rod. > > > > The unsolicited renewal notices received by my clients recently from > > Discount Domain Name Services are identical to the one posted to this > > list yesterday. The correspondence posted was definitely intact and has > > not been altered in any way save and except removal of the registrant's > > personal details. > > > > > > JM. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Rod Keys [mailto:rod§ddns.com.au] > > Sent: Tuesday, 14 May 2002 1:28 PM > > To: dns§lists.auda.org.au > > Subject: Re: [DNS] Discount Domains and the ACCC > > > > > > No that is incorrect the scanned copy was not complete and altered. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Domain Registration Services" <mail§domainregistration.com.au> > > To: <dns§lists.auda.org.au> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 1:06 PM > > Subject: RE: [DNS] Discount Domains and the ACCC > > > > > >> Rod, > >> > >> I spoke to you personally with regards to your recent marketing just a > >> few days ago and your attitude of > >> "so what, I can change it overnight to save my ass if I have to" was > >> extremely arrogant and none the less disappointing. > >> I spend half my days dealing with clients complaining about receiving > >> this type of deceptive marketing from ING etc., and it's unbelievably > >> annoying > > to > >> think that as the ACCC knocks one on the head yet another deceptive > >> marketing scheme surfaces. > >> > >> To everyone reading this list, the domain renewal notice posted > >> yesterday addressed to "Accounts Payable" is definitely intact and > >> unaltered as it > > is > >> identical to that received by a number of my clients in recent days. > >> Original documents will be forwarded to the ACCC, auDA, and to Mr Josh > > Rowe > >> forthwith. > >> > >> Rod Keys, you are on the COC Committee and yet you are sending out > >> unsolicited renewal notices to consumers your company has had no > >> prior dealings with. I expect you would clean up your act and > >> apologise to this community for your very recent deception instead of > >> trying to pull the > > wool > >> over everyone's eyes. Facts and the truth may embarrass you Rod, but > >> they are what they are and there is no denying. Upon receipt of the > > documentation > >> it will be enlightening to see if Chris actually does think your > >> marketing practices are clean and in accordance with the interim coc. > >> > >> Regards. > >> > >> J. Maiolo > >> Domain Registration Services > >> (Melbourne IT Re-seller) > >> > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Rod Keys [mailto:rod§ddns.com.au] > >> Sent: Tuesday, 14 May 2002 9:53 AM > >> To: dns§lists.auda.org.au > >> Subject: Re: [DNS] Discount Domains and the ACCC > >> > >> > >> Josh, > >> 1/ We no longer use the address accounts payable gone!! What was used > >> was old and not complete and altered.. copyright violation perhaps. > >> Mr.C. Disspain has looked at our doc and was clear it was not > >> misleading. 2/ The actual certificate is quite clear it's a domain > >> name licence. > >> > >> Rod > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Josh Rowe" <josh§email.nu> > >> To: <dns§lists.auda.org.au> > >> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 7:39 PM > >> Subject: RE: [DNS] Discount Domains and the ACCC > >> > >> > >> > I've put it onto my web site too: > >> > http://www.whatsinaname.com.au/renewals/wDDNS02.jpg > >> > > >> > Is there a second page Ginger? > >> > > >> > A couple of things to note about this renewal advice: > >> > > >> > 1. It's addressed to "Accounts Payable" - possibly contrary to the > >> > COP > >> > > >> > 2. "We Support the AUDA resellers code of conduct" - so does ING. > >> > > >> > 3. "Certificate of Domain Name Ownership" - domain names aren't > >> > owned, they are licenced. > >> > > >> > It's also very similar to DDNS's last renewal advice: > >> > > >> > http://www.whatsinaname.com.au/renewals/wLI01a.jpg > >> > http://www.whatsinaname.com.au/renewals/wLI01b.jpg > >> > > >> > For the complete set: > >> > http://www.whatsinaname.com.au/renewals/ > >> > > >> > > >> > Josh > >> > -- > >> > josh§email.nu > >> > > >> > > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > - > >> - > >> > List policy, unsubscribing and archives => > >> http://www.auda.org.au/list/dns/ > >> > Please do not retransmit articles on this list without permission of > >> > the author, further information at the above URL. 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