As a matter of interest, credit card chargebacks can occur up to 6 months
after the transaction for any payment that does not involve physically
sighting the card.  This means mail order, phone and on-line - the majority
of reseller and registrar transactions, I should think.

Ron Stark

-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Lawrence [mailto:jon§jonlawrence.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 1 May 2002 6:18 PM
To: dns§lists.auda.org.au
Subject: Re: [DNS] Transfer of Registrar of Record


OK so the transfer policy in its current form essentially says that
transfers
are really competitive renewals.  Sure, fair enough.

Why then does the policy also state that a transfer can occur at any time?
 

What about the situation where I am as an enduser totally dissatisfied with
the service that I am receiving from my registrar?  Why should I be
penalised
for wishing to switch providers mid-licence?  

This policy in its current form is contradictory.  On the one hand,
transfers
are allowed at any time, without even a cooling off period of, say 60 days,
to protect registrars and resellers from credit card chargebacks and fraud.
 On the other hand this policy creates a significant disincentive to end
users to transfer their names to a new provider at any time other than the
end of the licence period.

Why also does this policy create a situation where the registry will
directly
benefit from churn between registrars?  Every time a name is transferred
under this policy the registry gets a new 2 year licence fee.  Good deal
for them indeed...

rgds
jon





>-- Original Message --
>Reply-To: dns§lists.auda.org.au
>From: David Keegel <djk&#167;cyber.com.au>
>To: dns&#167;lists.auda.org.au
>Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 15:58:25 +1000 (EST)
>Subject: Re: [DNS] Transfer of Registrar of Record
>
>
>] > If I renew domain X.com.au for two years with registrar Y, and one
>] > month later want to transfer to registrar Z, does that mean registrar
>Z
>] > is expected to accept all the responsiblities of being the registrar
>] > for X.com.au for 23 months with no payment?
>] 
>] Not at all.. there can be a charge for transfers, but only if there is
>no
>] added registrations period to the domain name. Then the above would not
>] happen.
>
>Then what about people who transfer around renewal time? 
>(Personally as a consumer, that's when I would be shopping around
>for registrars/resellers.)
>
>If registrants have to pay extra (a transfer fee) to renew through
>a different registrar, wouldn't that reduce competition?
>
>__________________________________________________________________________
> David Keegel <djk&#167;cyber.com.au>  URL: http://www.cyber.com.au/users/djk/
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