As Mr Spock would say : Fascinating


Why not create a "REAL" association for the "PROTECTION OF CONSUMERS AGAINST
SCAMMERS AND LIARS", that would be a bit more effective than a little
website.

Create a real REGISTERED association that would take action against whoever
doesn't play by the rules, something like Greenpeace that would kick the
french doing Nuke tests, NOW THAT WOULD BE A START. An association with
people that can be TRUSTED and that would make a duty of hunting down
scammers and expose them ( that's rather easy, these idiots leave traces of
their exploits all over the internet, search google for "Internet Name
Group" ), that would send valuable info straight to the newspapers ....
create something like that with people that have real balls and then it's a
different story, the the deaf people will seriously shit their pants and ACT
accordingly to the REAL rules.
Create that association, warn all the papers in town that it is real and
that war against IT gangsters has started ..

Basically, create an indepentant IT Police, it's free, it's legal and it
hurts.
Some of you may think that it sounds childish, but face it, that's the only
way to enforce anything.



Ginger






-----Original Message-----
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Im sick of hearing most of you moan about the industry needing an overhaul
and nothing being done about it. Its IRA this ING that etc etc...

How about this I will pay for the sites maintenance and updating.

Im putting my money where my mouth is.




>From: "Michael-Pappas" <auda&#167;michael-pappas.com>
>Reply-To: dns&#167;lists.auda.org.au
>To: <dns&#167;lists.auda.org.au>
>Subject: Re: [DNS] FACTS & RESPONSIBILITIES
>Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 21:54:07 +1100 (EST)
>
>Jon,
>
>With everything that is happening, movement to registry, code of conduct,
>registrar accreditation and more, we would be more than willing to review
>such a site and depending on content and the way in which the information
>was presented refer our clients to this site for up to date information
>regarding the FACTS about .au domains.
>
>I believe such a site will need to be reviewed by the auDA and be given a
>go ahead to represent the hole community.
>
>Michael-Pappas
>www.clickngo.com.au
>
> > Hi Jon,
> >
> > I agree with you here. We all should stop bitching about specific
> > registries but I mean, what's been done about it?
> >
> > Maybe we could start a consumer awareness web site for .com.au
> > registrants to refer to when the are confused about what's going on in
> > the .au domain registration industry.
> >
> > I am willing to put a site together to inform consumers from ISPs, web
> > hosts and domain registries on what's going on without any ads etc on
> > it. A site that all the companies who abide by the 'Code of Conduct'
> > including a blacklist of domain registries that can send their
> > customers to get the most up-to-date information from. Even have a
> > partition of registries that have a good track record.
> >
> > Would anyone be interested sending their confused customers to such a
> > site?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Nigel
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jon Lawrence" <jon&#167;jonlawrence.com>
> > To: <dns&#167;lists.auda.org.au>
> > Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 3:04 AM
> > Subject: RE: [DNS] FACTS & RESPONSIBILITIES
> >
> >
> >> Well...the ICANN Registrar Constituency has been talking about a code
> >> of conduct for over two years, Nominet (uk registry) has also been
> >> failed to implement anything for a similar length of time.
> >>
> >> If auDA is able to facilitate the adoption of a code of conduct within
> >> 6 months of registrar competition being introduced then it will be a
> > considerable
> >> achievement.
> >>
> >> Perhaps if you redirected some of the energy you expend on your
> >> campaigns against specific registrars towards actually achieving this
> >> goal then the concerns you have about certain business models are more
> >> likely to be
> > resolved
> >> sooner rather than later with the adoption of an effective and
> >> enforceable code.
> >>
> >> jon
> >>
> >>
> >> >-- Original Message --
> >> >Reply-To: dns&#167;lists.auda.org.au
> >> >From: "Ginger Fish" <ginger-fish&#167;scifi-art.com>
> >> >To: "Dns&#167;Lists.Auda.Org.Au" <dns§lists.auda.org.au>
> >> >Cc: <inquiries&#167;theage.com.au>,
> >> > <hsletters&#167;hwt.newsltd.com.au>,
> >> > <custserv_time&#167;timeinc.com>
> >> >Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 02:12:56 +1100
> >> >Subject: [DNS] FACTS & RESPONSABILITIES
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Surely at least one newspaper out there feels the responsability to
> >> >inform consumers...
> >> >
> >> >Test-Bed Registrars/Provisionally Accredited Registrars
> >> >auDA chooses wisely while the rest of the world looks on and laughs.
> >> >A disgraceful state of affairs and yet this is what we're stuck with
> >> >in  Australia.
> >> >
> >> >Self regulation works if you're in the bed or in the loop.
> >> >Is there anyone out there who gives a damn?
> >> >
> >> >I CAN SEE IT NOW, REGISTRARS AGREEMENTS SIGNED,
> >> >CODE OF CONDUCT PUT IN PLACE 6 MONTHS LATER.
> >> >--- CAN ANYONE OUT THERE SEE A FUNDAMENTAL PROBLEM WITH THIS???????
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >NET REGISTRY  - PROVISIONALLY ACCREDITED REGISTRAR
> >> >19 Oct 2001 auDA moves swiftly to protect AUNIC database
> >> >http://www.auda.org.au/about/news/2001101901.html
> >> >
> >> >Reports confirm that NetRegistry copied data in bulk from
> >> >Australia's AUNIC database which it hosted on behalf of auDA.
> >> >http://www.icannwatch.org/article.php?sid=420
> >> >
> >> >auDA switches off NetRegistry
> >> >http://www.itnews.com.au/story.cfm?ID=8220
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >RARE-DOMAINS PTY LTD - TEST-BED REGISTRAR
> >> >Is this Peter Dean, Director of auDA, Director of Instra, mate
> >> >of Chris Dispain, with a commercial website sitting on
> >> >www.aunic.com.au
> >>
> >> > ?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >INTERNET NAME GROUP  - PROVISIONALLY ACCREDITED REGISTRAR
> >> >Internet Name Group scam
> >> >http://www.auda.org.au/list/dns/archive/032001/0060.html
> >> >
> >> >The greed behind gratuitous grace
> >> >http://www.smh.com.au/icon/0111/13/news4.html
> >> >
> >> >Riddle of 10-year deals on .au names with a two-year life
> >> >http://it.mycareer.com.au/networking/20010410/A35593-2001Apr10.html
> >> >
> >> >Name seller flogs .biz names via asic.com
> >> >http://www.smh.com.au/news/0106/22/biztech/biztech15.html
> >> >
> >> >"Spam" Attack Prompts Suspension By Domainz.
> >> >http://www.aardvark.co.nz/pr2001/090601.htm
> >> >
> >>
> >>http://www.idg.net.nz/webhome.nsf/UNID/D6AC0A53F05ECFC6CC256ABF00090DE4!
>ope
> > n
> >> >document
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Isn't there a problem here ?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Ginger
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
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