Hi Kim,

> The problem, as I see it, is if you remove the postal address - then you
> will se a rise in the number of people being harassed by phone and email
> by domain name resellers.

It would clearly be cheaper and easier for unscrupulous operators to send
'renewal notices' via email (virtually zero cost compared with printing &
posting all those paper ones) and whoever sent out all the paper ones
clearly had the ability to send email ones if they had wanted to.

So we need to ask the question about why all those paper ones were sent -
they obviously were NOT sent by paper because no other methods were
available to the sender.  They were sent because the paper ones have a
higher success rate.  In fact, because they were sent out multiple times we
know:


The cost of the paper mass mailout X the successful response rate = a net
profit


I suspect that very few companies, large or small, will pay an invoice that
turns up only via email.  Especially as everyone is constantly exposed to
spam and pretty cynical about it.

I can't see phone calls working either.  Try calling up a small business and
asking them to send you some money - the first thing they will say is "send
me an invoice", plus the cost of paying someone to make the calls makes this
option not viable.

> I think I would rather be able to toss wads of
> their mail in the bin than get spammed

Each to his own - I reckon the reverse is true for me.  I would have thought
you'd set up your email filters to trash the well known unscrupulous
operators' emails sight unseen.  And I can hit the DELETE key in a lot less
time than it takes me to open an envelope.


Regards, Mark

Mark Hughes
Effective Business Applications Pty Ltd
effectivebusiness§pplications.com.au
www.pplications.com.au
+61 4 1374 3959





> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kim Davies [mailto:kim§cynosure.com.au]
> Sent: Saturday, 2 March 2002 10:29
> To: dns§lists.auda.org.au
> Subject: Re: [DNS] Now I am ANGRY
>
>
> Quoting Mark Hughes on Saturday March 02, 2002:
> |
> | Kim raised the very real issue of the purpose of the database being to
> | enable people to contact the licensee of a domain.  The
> objective I guess is
> | to continue to support this function, while minimising abuse of
> the data.  I
> | must say that I struggle to see any real effect on enabling people to
> | contact domain name licensees by removing the domain 'creation date' and
> | 'street address' from visibility.
>
> The problem, as I see it, is if you remove the postal address - then you
> will se a rise in the number of people being harassed by phone and email
> by domain name resellers.
>
> As bad as they are, if companies are going to prey on registrants, I
> think I would rather be able to toss wads of their mail in the bin than
> get spammed or take calls from them.
>
> kim
>
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