I have had for like over 6 months a request in for dragonskin.org.au I received this email ; QUOTE ----- Original Message ----- From: <ceo§auda.org.au> To: <duzzell§saintspc.com.au>; <malcolmw§netspace.net.au>; <ceo§auda.org.au> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 3:21 PM Subject: Re: FW: Reminder: [dragonskin.org.au|8172] Domain Name request for 'dragonskin.org.au' Your request for registration of the domain dragonskin.org.au has NOT been undertaken. This is because the domain administrator has indicated that the domain name request has not been accepted. If you wish to include further information in relation to this request you may choose to do so by resubmitting the original domain name request with the additional information included as comment in the request form. The domain administrator, ceo§auda.org.au, provided the following comments: Domains will not be registered if it appears the primary purpose is to promote a product or service provided by an organisation. It is the organisation itself which is allocated a domain name, not its products, trade marks, or similar. Services provided by the organisation are not sufficient themselves to qualify for a domain name. *** END QUOTE I now have just discovered that a Scout group has just got WHOIS domain: 1stredcliffs.org.au descr: 1st Red Cliffs Scouts Group descr: P.O Box 860 Red Cliffs, Victoria 3496 descr: Red Cliffs descr: VIC 3496 admin-c: JG1721-AU tech-c: JG1721-AU zone-c: JG1721-AU remarks: Created 20011208 changed: nobody§aunic.net 20020206 source: AUNIC person: Jason Govan address: P.O Box 860 address: Red Cliffs address: VIC 3496 address: AU phone: +61 3 50241479 e-mail: webmaster§1stredcliffs.zzn.com nic-hdl: JG1721-AU remarks: (Organisation) 1st Red Cliffs Scout Group remarks: (position) Venturer Scout and Web Master remarks: Created 20011208 changed: nobody§aunic.net 20020119 source: AUNIC END WHOIS! Ok here is one for the auDA and every member of the list! With regards to why I was refused the dragonskin.org.au I can understand. I was not happy but I do accept that the decision of auDA was final and would be fair from this point onwards! I just get contacted by this scout group that they have their web address in the same .org.au That I was applying for. There is also in the policy a section about domains that must not have a home else were. Scout Groups are Associations and I would have to say that .asn.au would be more appropriate for ALL scout groups who are associations. I would also have to ask Where in this case is a Scout Group different to Dragon Skin? It is as independent from the main scouts as is a group and is as closely linked to the main scouts as a scout group! From my side of the fence I would have to say that the rules for domain names in the .org.au namespace have not got any fairer but have only got faster in being denied or approved! If this is going to be the case that Scout Groups fall under .org.au I will be putting a few applications of my own for scout groups who either don't have one or don't have a .au I find that in this case nothing about .org.au has changed except the speed at which it flows! David Uzzell Group Leader http://www.1stpenshurst-scouts.asn.au Communications Manager DragonSkin Webhost www.scouthq.net I do have an interest and I am declaring it here! ----------------------------------------------------------------- Saints PC Pty Ltd T/as Diversified Data Ph +61 2 9533 7388 Fax +61 2 9533 7322 Confidentiality / Limited Liability Statement This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error, please notify Saints PC Pty Ltd immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Saints PC Pty LtdReceived on Fri Oct 03 2003 - 00:00:00 UTC
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