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> From: Mike Russell <mjr&#167;hydrocorp.com>
> Date: Thu Dec 20, 2001  09:29:57  AM Australia/South
> To: craig.ng&#167;maddocks.com.au
> Subject: Re: [DNS] Notional value of a domain name
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> On Thursday, December 20, 2001, at 08:58  AM, craig.ng&#167;maddocks.com.au 
> wrote:
>
>> Mike - this discussion started with an issue of 'uncertainty' because 
>> of a
>> two-year renewing cycle for domain names.  I take your point about the 
>> EFA
>> case.  My point is that the domain name space is no different from our
>> established way of registering business names (and no one complains 
>> about that
>> system).  Read the following - it appears in section 10 of the 
>> Victorian
>> Business Names Act 1962:
>>
>> <quote>
>> 10. Power to cancel registration of business
>> names that are undesirable etc.
>> (1) If a business name which could not be registered
>> under this Act without contravention of sub-section (1)
>> of section nine is registered through inadvertence or
>> otherwise, the Director may send by post a notice
>> addressed to the person or persons in relation to whom
>> the name is so registered at the registered address of
>> the business carried on under that name*
>> (a) stating that he proposes to cancel the registration
>> of that name upon the expiration of such period
>> (being a period of not less than twenty-eight
>> days) as is specified in the notice; and
>> (b) setting out his reasons for the proposed
>> cancellation*
>> and upon the expiration of that period the Director may
>> cancel the registration of that name.
>> </quote>
>
> Hi Craig,
> No probs here with any of that, however, if the above is meant to be a 
> slight on the appropriateness or undesirability of the domain, perhaps 
> you should again do a little more research..
>
> My relevant points are specific to uncertainty;
>
> *The domain applied for, was not in contravention of the published 
> policy at the time of application.
> *It was removed against policy and was a determining factor in the 
> resulting policy changes made by INA with respect to so called  
> "offensive words"
> *Policy should be such that it allows for certainty, it should not be 
> decided after people either pay for, or have delegated, .com.au domains 
> or if you like property or goods once a sale has been processed.
> *The case was not decided on inadvertence.
>
> Here's another link for you;
> http://www.infowar.com/p_and_s/99/p_n_s_031399a_j.shtml
>
> and an excerpt
> <snip>
> Internet Names Australia, a division of Melbourne IT, administers the 
> prized .com.au ligature and it has strict rules governing e-mail 
> addresses. To register the .com.au suffix, for instance, organisations 
> must have a company or business name registered in Australia.
>
> "Obtaining a domain name is very much taking a marketing position," 
> says Peter Gerrand, CEO of Melbourne IT. "It's giving emphasis to a 
> company name, to a brand name, a product name or masthead." More than 
> 65,000 .com.au names are reserved in Australia, the longest of which 
> is &#167;honeysucklehealthdiscountsportsnutrition.com.au (up to 256 
> characters are allowed after &#167;).
>
> There are naming restrictions on gazetted place names in Australia (eg, 
> Bondi), words protected by legislation (eg, Sydney Olympics), statutory 
> authorities, generic products and services, and names deemed offensive. 
> "We recently refused somebody who wanted &#167;fuck.com.au because we 
> believed it was not in the interests of Australian businesses that use 
> .com.au to have it tarnished that way," says Gerrand.
> <unsnip >
>
>
> Have a great day.
>
>
> Mike Russell.
>