Josh,
We have had our document looked over by Chris and have made certain changes.
We have built our mail information through sheer hard work. We have never
been found to overuse aunic records as there are other ways to gather domain
name information we find aunic records out of date. One just has to look
through our huge  volumes of directories and the internet.
As you are from the demand side of the fence you should be happy that we are
trying to push the price down and educate the market as to the right price
to pay.
We are supporters of the auDA code of practice there is no mention on our
document that indicates invoice we are not wanting to decieve registrants
only educate.
You could maybe see that by the way we complied with auda's request to
change our name all those years ago.
If you think that direct marketing is not a genuine method to promote our
services (we don't only register domain names)  I'm afraid your employer
would not be in the position to employ people like yourself as without bulk
mail users like us they simply couldn't afford to. And while we are at it
let's take all commercials off TV and radio  and take all the ads out of the
papers and let's ban music and stop kids flying kites think of that the next
time you pull that coles brochure out of your letter box..
So please Josh don't put our name next to the others as all we stand for is
competition and a fair go for all.
We await your retraction.
Rod Keys




----- Original Message -----
From: "Rowe, Joshua" <Joshua.Rowe&#167;auspost.com.au>
To: <dns&#167;auda.org.au>
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 6:43 PM
Subject: RE: [DNS] DDNS joins ING & IRA ?


> Rod,
>
> DDNS's approach may not comply with the Interim Code of Practice.
>
> from: http://www.auda.org.au/docs/Interim_COP.pdf
>
> --8<----8<----8<----8<----8<----8<----8<----8<----8<----8<----8<----8<----
8<
> --
> 8. Renewal Notices
>
> Registrars and resellers shall not send to registrants renewal notices
that
> appear to be
> (or could be construed as) invoices for payment, unless the registrant is
> their customer.
>
> All solicitations for business should be clearly identified as such, and
> should include a
> statement that the registrant is under no obligation to respond and may
> choose to renew
> their domain name licence through their existing registrar or reseller.
> --8<----8<----8<----8<----8<----8<----8<----8<----8<----8<----8<----8<----
8<
> --
>
> DDNS addresses the notice to the "Accounts Department" which may give
> organisations receiving the notice an impression that it is an invoice.
>
> Also, unless DDNS has permission from the CEO of auDA, they may be
> contravening the Terms of Use of the AUNIC database.
>
> from: http://www.aunic.net/copyright.html
> --8<----8<----8<----8<----8<----8<----8<----8<----8<----8<----8<----8<----
8<
> --
> AUNIC Whois Database
> Terms of Use
>
> The AUNIC database is a public service provided by .au Domain
Administration
> Limited (ACN 079 009 340) ("auDA").
>
> By submitting a query on the AUNIC database ("AUNIC") you agree with auDA
> that you will only use the data retrieved for a lawful purpose and will
not,
> under any circumstances, use the data to
>
> 1. allow, enable or otherwise support the transmission of unsolicited,
> commercial advertising or solicitations via email or otherwise; or
>
> 2. support your own or a third party high volume automated electronic
query
> process. Whether or not any automated query process is "high volume" shall
> be determined by auDA in its absolute discretion.
> --8<----8<----8<----8<----8<----8<----8<----8<----8<----8<----8<----8<----
8<
> --
>
> It is the blatantly obvious that AUNIC is the data source for DDNS's
direct
> marketing campaign.
>
>
> Josh
> * any views are my own
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rod Keys [mailto:rod&#167;ddns.com.au]
> Sent: Tuesday, 4 December 2001 5:34 PM
> To: dns&#167;auda.org.au
> Subject: Re: [DNS] DDNS joins ING & IRA ?
>
>
> and what is wrong with our single approach Josh?
> Rod Keys
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rowe, Joshua" <Joshua.Rowe&#167;auspost.com.au>
> To: <dns&#167;auda.org.au>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 5:09 PM
> Subject: [DNS] DDNS joins ING & IRA ?
>
>
> > Just as my pile of ING & IRA "notices" is about to hit 4cm in height, we
> > have another player!
> >
> > Remember the "Domain Name Authority of Australia" aka www.dna.asn.au?
> Here
> > are some old news articles to refresh your memory:
> >
> > Scam claim over com.au reselling
> > http://it.mycareer.com.au/e-commerce/20001024/A2319-2000Oct23.html
> >
> > Domain name reseller changes name after complaints
> > http://it.mycareer.com.au/breaking/20001114/A48827-2000Nov14.html
> >
> > They are now known as "Discount Domain Name Services" (www.ddns.com.au)
> and
> > are sending out domain renewal notices (see below).
> >
> > http://www.whatsinaname.com.au/renewals/wLI01a.jpg
> > http://www.whatsinaname.com.au/renewals/wLI01b.jpg
> >
> >
> > Josh
> > * any views are my own
> >
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