Adrian, it's more like having to re-sit your licence every two years, but
with the added risk of doing so with a whole new set of road rules (policy)
with which to conform.

Apropos of having to conform to new policy - what happens if, for example, I
have changed my company name in the meantime, but have continued to build
brand awareness and value around a domain name that was derived from my
original company name.  This, by the way, is a real scenario that I face.

Am I then penalised with forfeiting my valid domain, possibly to somebody
who has taken up my old company name, now lapsed, simply because it no
longer conforms to policy?

I, too, sense some lack of awareness of coal-face realities in the policy as
I presently understand it.

Ron Stark


-----Original Message-----
From: Adrian Stephan [mailto:akstephan§ozemail.com.au]
Sent: Wednesday, 28 November 2001 4:34 PM
To: dns§auda.org.au
Subject: RE: [DNS] Domain Name Management and renewal process


I guess this is like having a driver's license that you have to resit every
two years to a new set of rules.  Hmmm, interesting concept.  Who makes the
money or am I being too cynical here?

I thought there were established precedences used by the Courts.  A point
system is used for something as sensitive as immigration.  Why can't we have
such a transparent system here.  It takes years to establish an identity for
a business and to have this sort of process is just simply ridiculous and
shows a complete lack of understanding, in my opinion.

So, I assume I am not with the flow.

Rgds

Adrian

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-----Original Message-----
From: Nick Andrew [mailto:nick§zeta.org.au]
Sent: Wednesday, 28 November 2001 14:42 PM
To: dns§auda.org.au
Subject: Re: [DNS] Domain Name Management and renewal process


On Wed, Nov 28, 2001 at 09:54:48AM +1100, Ron Stark wrote:
> Andrew, I didn't know that was "the name of the game".  I thought the game
> was to web-enable those consumers that don't already have a domain name /
> web presence, i.e. growth.

Registering a domain name has been trivial for years, and is no
inhibitor to growth.

"All the good ones are already taken" ... as some wise person said,
and this on the other hand is obviously an inhibitor to the rich
and powerful getting the domain name they want. It is important to
protect the rights of large corporations to hold all domain names
(however many is irrelevant) which could in any way be associated
with the corporation (like sucks domains, and misspellings, and
simple somebody-else-got-it-first). After all, a good domain name can
represent large revenue and/or publicity to a corporation; quashing the
registrations of nobodies who aren't even making any money from their
domain name makes simple economic sense.

> In your recycling "game", just how do you propose to measure the strength
/
> weakness of any claim?  Wealth?  Size of organisation?  First in?
Domicile?
> Temporary inaction?  Arbitrary subjectivity?  Fame?

It's already happening, and I didn't make the policy. Germany has
decided that Shell Corporation has more right to the name www.shell.de
than some guy whose surname is Shell, whose only claim to fame is that
he registered the name first.

Closer to home - as the article I was following up queried - soon domains
will be able to be taken from their registrants if the registrant no
longer qualifies for that domain according to the policy of the day. Why
should a domain be forcibly taken away from its original registrant but
to be reallocated to somebody else! Prior use, well-known-services,
email, privacy - all are irrelevant to the industry of recycling
domain names.

Nick.

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