> (you may very well already be paying a subsidy :

Exactly.  Those of us with domain names in com.au, for example, are
subsiding those with domain names in org.au.   Whether that's a good or
a bad thing is up to each domain name holder to decide.

For me, I'm happy to consider the thought of subsidies to others, if and
only if, those subsidies are clearly identified, and clearly targeted.
I'm not happy having my SME subsidise other organisations (or indeed
individuals) which have far more resources than mine.  Which is what
happens today.

> we must also acknowledge that this isn't a 'new'
> proposal - it's a proposal to maintain the status-quo
> - nothing more 

> The best option may be for applicants to provide a
> Registered Charities Number, or some other verifiable
> document certifying NFP status

You have completely avoided addressing the issue that many organisations
with NFP status have huge resources, and its difficult to see why
struggling small SME's should subsidise these.  Just being NFP is not
enough.

If you follow your 'Registered Charities' line of thought, then:

a) It contradicts your earlier statement that the proposal isn't
anything new, its just the status quo
b) You're much more likely to be succesful.  It's a damn sight easier to
support a proposal to subsidise genuine Registered Charities, than the
collection of odds and sods currently in org.au, asn.au, etc.  But now
you're moving into the territory I suggested in my earlier email - i.e.
create a new chr.au 2LD for Registered Charities only.  Put the proposal
together, and submit it to auDA with a proposed fee structure that auDA
charges the lump-sum fee only, and no per-domain fee as long as the
Registry and Registrars for chr.au domain names charge no fees.  And see
what happens.

> obviously there are issues to work through, though I don't see these
as insurmountable

Me neither.  But its going to take serious work and hard decisions to
get a proposal worth supporting.

Regards, 


Mark Hughes
Effective Business Applications Pty Ltd
effectivebusiness§pplications.com.au
+61 4 1374 3959
www.pplications.com.au


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