Ron, Your point about the Code of Conduct is correct. However, it was also stated that MIT did not agree with the provisions in the Registrar agreement about re-sellers. There is no argument that a Code of Practice is essential. The Competition Panel Report says; "2.4.9 The Panel recommends that auDA impose some minimum conditions on accredited registrars, focused mainly on consumer protection issues, such as protection of personal information. The Panel also recommends that registrars and consumer representatives develop an industry code of practice to set standards for consumer protection covering such matters as minimum levels of disclosure, handling of registration fees paid in advance, transfer of registrants between registrars, handling of disputes between registrars and registrants and credit management. This code of practice should be approved by auDA, with adherence to be imposed as a licence condition for all registrars ........ 2.4.10 The Panel recommends that auDA commence planning of the code development process as early as possible, as part of the implementation strategy (see section 3). The Panel suggests that auDA convene a working group of industry and consumer representatives to initiate code development. Considering the large number of diverse participants within the domain name services industry, the Panel notes that there may be difficulties in reaching consensus on an industry code of practice in a timely manner. To ensure that the introduction of consumer safeguards occurs concurrently with the introduction of competition, the Panel recommends that such safeguards be incorporated into auDA's initial registrar licence agreements. This would remove the need for auDA to establish immediately a forum for the development of industry codes, and would also allow time for new entrants to gain industry experience......." This is what auDA is intending to do and the Registrar agreement deals with this. Regards, Chris Disspain CEO - auDA ceo§auda.org.au +61-3-9226-9495 www.auda.org.au -----Original Message----- From: Ron Stark [mailto:ronstark§businesspark.com.au] Sent: Wednesday, 17 October 2001 13:20 To: 'dns§auda.org.au' Subject: RE: [DNS] FW: [Oz-ISP] Internet Registrations Australia gross overcharging for .com.au! Chris, I have no axe to grind one way or the other, but I must comment on your statement "Interestingly, at the public meeting we held to discuss the draft agreement, Melbourne IT expressed the view that we should not be doing any of this." below. I was at that meeting as you know, and my impression is that on this issue Melbourne IT was strongly in favour of an enforceable Code of Conduct. Indeed, whilst that particular subject was under discussion, one of their concerns was that the draft Code isn't strong enough. Melbourne IT's concern, and others' as well, was the lack of empirical parameters within which auDA could instruct a Registrar to terminate their agreement with a reseller. Consensus was, however, in favour of auDA having power to do so. Which brings us back to the fundamental (and urgent) need to have an industry-agreed Code of Conduct that protects auDA, registrars, resellers and most importantly consumers. Ron Stark Business Park Pty Ltd mail: ronstark§businesspark.com.au tel: +61 (0)3 9592 6895 fax: +61 (0)3 9591 0729 mob: +61 (0)41 812 9922 -----Original Message----- From: Chris Disspain [mailto:ceo§auda.org.au] Sent: Wednesday, 17 October 2001 1:03 PM To: dns§auda.org.au Subject: RE: [DNS] FW: [Oz-ISP] Internet Registrations Australia gross overcharging for .com.au! Don, Organisations like IRA are channel partners of MIT and governed by a Licence Agreement. It is my understanding that MIT's legal advice is that they cannot terminate these Licences for activities such as those displayed by IRA. auDA has now published an Interim Code of Practice and I understand that MIT will endeavour to ensure that their re-sellers abide by it. Clause 8 of the Code deals specifically with Solicitations for Business. You will also be aware that auDA has issued 2 Consumer Alerts earlier this year. http://www.auda.org.au/alert_renewal.html http://www.auda.org.au/alert_resellers.html We encourage all domain name re-sellers and ISPs to email these to their customer database so that registrants are fully informed. We will be issuing another one shortly specifically dealing with IRA. At the moment there is little else we can do other than continue to refer these matters to the ACCC. However, under the new competition regime, auDA will have the power to do something about all of this. Our draft Registrars Agreement has clauses in it making Registrars responsible for the behaviour of their re-sellers and allowing auDA to instruct a Registrar to terminate a re-seller Licence. It also contains provision ensuring that any Licence between an Registrar and a re-seller contains various consumer safeguard clauses. Interestingly, at the public meeting we held to discuss the draft agreement, Melbourne IT expressed the view that we should not be doing any of this. Regards Chris Disspain CEO - auDA ceo§auda.org.au +61-3-9226-9495 www.auda.org.au -----Original Message----- From: Don Cameron [mailto:donc§mudgeeab.com.au] Sent: Monday, 15 October 2001 15:58 To: dns§auda.org.au Subject: Re: [DNS] FW: [Oz-ISP] Internet Registrations Australia gross overcharging for .com.au! ... and another IRA (aptly named) renewal notice to add to my pile. Was anyone able to respond to Dr. Brooks request for information on the best way to deal with these? - It's my understanding that the Government (and it's agencies such as the ACCC), are trying to maintain the concept of industry self-governance through bodies like AuDA - Does AuDA have an established procedure for complaints against channel partners? - If so, could someone please let us know what this is - this practice is getting way beyond a joke, and would certainly be deemed unacceptable in any other industry. Don Cameron -- This article is not to be reproduced or quoted beyond this forum without express permission of the author. 315 subscribers. Archived at http://listmaster.iinet.net.au/list/dns (user: dns, pass: dns) Email "unsubscribe" to dns-request§auda.org.au to be removed. -- This article is not to be reproduced or quoted beyond this forum without express permission of the author. 314 subscribers. 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