Ron,

I'm sure if you made a supply of these stickers available to us all we could
generate just a little havoc in the IRA offices. Free fax line, woohoo.

Dave Hooper.

]-----Original Message-----
]From: Ron Stark [mailto:ronstark§businesspark.com.au]
]Sent: Friday, 12 October 2001 12:50 PM
]To: 'dns§auda.org.au'
]Subject: RE: [DNS] FW: [Oz-ISP] Internet Registrations Australia gross
]overcharging for .com.au!
]
]
]I just received two of these things, which of course offer 10-years renewal
]for what's ONLY available in 2-year blocks.  I sent the damned thing back
](by fax to their free fax number) with a sticker that said, and I quote:
]
]"When are you leeches going to stop this crap?  You have an apalling
]reputation in the industry, and I for one warn clients off your sort of
]business practice.  You are clearly in breach of the industry code of
]practice, and I hope you're put out of business"
]
]
]Ron Stark
]Business Park Pty Ltd
]mail: ronstark§businesspark.com.au
]tel: +61 (0)3 9592 6895   fax: +61 (0)3 9591 0729
]mob: +61 (0)41 812 9922
]
]
]-----Original Message-----
]From: Brooks, Paul [mailto:Paul.Brooks2§ndcglobal.com]
]Sent: Friday, 12 October 2001 12:41 PM
]To: 'DNS list'
]Subject: [DNS] FW: [Oz-ISP] Internet Registrations Australia gross
]overcharging for .com.au!
]
]
]
]> Now I don't feel so left out - I got my first one yesterday, for a domain
]> registered just on a year ago - unfortunately, my home address was in the
]> WHOIS comments, so is available for public access.
]>
]> After trawling through the ACCC site (which says contact auDA) and the
]> auDA site (which says contact the ACCC), and the INWW site where I
]> registered it myself (which says nothing on the matter), and calling IRA
]> (who appear not to be doing anything illegal, just objectionable/sharp
]> practices), its not clear what action to take, other than
]binning it - and
]> that doesn't help the matter for the rest of the industry.
]>
]> Before I spend a few hours on the phone, has anyone had a recent
]chat with
]> the ACCC regarding these letters, and in particular
]> a) could this be classed as a 'scam', looking like an invoice to deceive
]> busy business accounts sections, but actually only an offer
]> b) Labelling the bottom invoice section "RENEWAL" may be misleading, as
]> IRA doesn't renew, and the domain may not need to be renewed for a long
]> time
]> c) Not disclosing any material terms and conditions on the
]letter (such as
]> that IRA may not be able to fulfil a long-term 'management' contract
]> beyond 2 years), forcing
]>     recipients to look at a separate webpage for terms and
]conditions, may
]> be "Unconscionable Conduct"
]>
]> Has anyone stumped up the $10 to peruse the ACCCs "Unconscionable Conduct
]> guide" to see if it breaches something there?
]>
]>
]> Dr Paul Brooks		| paul.brooks2§ndcglobal.com
]> Lead Consultant		| Ph: +61 2 8399 6666
]> NDC Professional Services	| Fx: +61 2 8399 6895
]> Sydney Australia		| Mob: 0414 366 605
]>
]>
]> -----Original Message-----
]> From:	David Fitch [SMTP:davidf§parachilna.com]
]> Sent:	Friday, October 12, 2001 9:09 AM
]> To:	aussie-isp§aussie.net
]> Subject:	Re: [Oz-ISP] Internet Registrations Australia gross
]> overcharging for .com.au!
]>
]> On Thu, Oct 11, 2001 at 01:44:19PM +1000, Craig Ian Dewick wrote:
]> > Yet another letter about renewing my .com.au domain name has arrived,
]> this
]>
]> makes me glad I went for a .com name.
]> Apart from being a fraction of the cost of a .com.au, I haven't
]> had any spam about renewals at all (touch wood!).
]>
]> Dave.
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