Grant,

It happened because Robert was delegated to be the .au country code
delegate/manager by, to quote todays SMH, "the international group of
academics and technicians that first ran the nascent Internet".

The reason we have .com.au, .net.au, .org.au etc is because Robert decided
that was how .au would be organized. Over the years, Robert has delegated
some of the second level domains to others. Thus, auDA is the delegate of
.com.au but subject (at the moment) to various agreements with Melbourne IT.

Robert still retains the .org.au delegation himself and the 'higher
authority' is the delegate of .au which is, at least for the moment, Robert.

If you have been following the list and/or the IT sections of the press you
will know that auDA has now applied to ICANN to re-delegate the .au domain
to us (full details are available at http://www.auda.org.au/redelegation/ ).
We would like to have done this with Robert's consent but, unfortunately, he
has not responded to our requests. In the event that we are successful in
persuading ICANN to re-delegate, then we will be in a position to do
something about .org.au.

I hope this explains the situation but please do not hesitate to contact me
if you have any further questions.

Regards

Chris Disspain
CEO - auDA
ceo§auda.org.au
+61-3-9226-9495
www.auda.org.au


-----Original Message-----
From: CYONA1 [mailto:cyona1§treko.net.au]
Sent: Thursday, 14 June 2001 12:24
To: dns§auda.org.au
Subject: Re: [DNS] org.au

Hi all

How did it happen that Robert Elz became the sole authority to administer
the org.au domains.  I have pending important organisations such as the
Multiple Birth Association of WA and the Narrogin Business Enterprise Centre
who put their trust in me to maintain their sites.  Our local ISP closed
it's doors and transferred all it's sites to Westnet.  The people at Westnet
have been fantastic with the changeover but the redelegation has held
everything up.  Surely with the number of complaints against Mr Elz for
delays, someone of a higher authority should step in and strip him of his
monopoly.

Grant Hicks
Systems Plus Pty Ltd
sysplus§treko.net.au

----- Original Message -----
From: "MATTSON, Winston AJ" <winston&#167;igs.vic.edu.au>
To: <dns&#167;auda.org.au>
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 9:42 AM
Subject: RE: [DNS] org.au


> Hello All,
>
> I would just like to say that of experiences with .org.au registration
> has been completly different.....  It is now 11 months and our
> registration request is still pending a response by the domain
> administrator - Robert Elz.  Countless attempts to email and phone Elz
> over the past 11 months have all failed with no reply.
>
> Regards
> Winston
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WestNet Domains [mailto:domains&#167;wn.com.au]
> Sent: Thursday, 14 June 2001 11:20
> To: 'dns&#167;auda.org.au'
> Subject: RE: [DNS] org.au
>
>
> Hello Kenneth,
> I beg to differ on that last point you made. I have been involved in
> .org.au
> domains for 2 years and have never received a confirmation of approval
> so
> quickly. In fact I contacted Robert Elz regarding this and he has told
> me
> the following:
>
> Date:        Tue, 22 May 2001 19:03:41 +0800
>     From:        ravin&#167;wn.com.au
>     Message-ID:  <004d01c0e2ae$dccec860$0200a8c0&#167;server>
>
>   | The main thing I require from this email is a realistic timeframe
>   | time frame that I can give my clients.
>
> Sorry, there's no such thing - org.au processing delays vary wildly.
> Just at the minute it is about as long as it has ever been, though
> decreasing a bit from what it was a week ago (it stretched to about 7
> weeks, now is between 5 & 6 I think).   I hope to keep it coming down.
> There have been times when the delay has been about a day.   Perhaps
> that will happen again...
> Robert
>
> This is the response I received from him when I tried to offer a
> timeframe
> to my clients. If you no a quicker process , please enlighten me.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kenneth B [mailto:kb&#167;kb.au.com]
> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 8:42 AM
> To: dns&#167;auda.org.au
> Subject: Re: [DNS] org.au
>
>
> If you own the .org.au domain name, you approve it!
>
> Its the service providers that are taking so long, it should be a 24
> hour
> thing...
>
> If you read aunic.net information about delegation, you fill in a form
> with
> the required nameservers and in about 24 hours they are completed, if
> the
> nameservers are configured...
>
> I have registered a .org.au name for my church, i know it took a while
> to
> get at first, but when i want to delegate it (move serviceproviders),
> that
> does not take long at all...
>
> KB
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "CYONA1" <cyona1&#167;treko.net.au>
> To: <dns&#167;waia.asn.au>
> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 10:34 AM
> Subject: [DNS] org.au
>
>
> > I find this discussion area interesting and very informative but why
> does
> it
> > take up to 8 weeks to approve a .org.au to be moved from one ISP to
> another.
> > Who does the approving?  What is the process once permissions are
> sought.
> >
> > Grant Hicks
> >
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