On Sun, 10 Dec 2000, John Davidson wrote: > David, > > I would urge some caution here - I don't think the US courts view the topic > as simply as Doug suggests. I have not researched the law and don't purport > to provide any advice, but the following is my off-the-cuff understanding of > the law. > > The problem with internet and copyright is that going to a web site in > itself could constitute an infringement because the material is copied to > the computer's memory, albeit without the user being conscious of this. Hi John, Most of these cases have been settled out of court, leaving no usable legal precedent. Also they usually involve other issues making any judgement applicable only to that particular set of circumstances. Re your point on 'copying', merely providing a link to a url is not copying in any form - electronic or otherwise. This is a fundamental problem for people who argue this is a copyright infringment - the act as it stands simple doesn't support this position. A hyperlink is like giving someone directions to a library, book shop or art gallery where they can find a particular work. There are plenty of lawyers who will endlessly argue these points on behalf of clients so I'm not suggesting for one moment anything is open and shut or predicting how anyone would go in a particular case. Most cases however involve various other infringements or issues like passing off or 'violating terms of use' so you have to be careful when looking for relevent case history. If merely hyperlinking was a copyright infringement as suggested then there would be a solid body of precedents set by now - the fact that there isn't to me suggests that this is not the case. The plaintifs' obvioulsy have a difficult and expensive case to prove this. A recent US case (March 2000) I did dig up support the commonsense position that: "The court stated that such a hyperlink did not constitute copyright infringement, as Tickets.com did not copy any portion of the Ticketmaster site, but simply transferred the user directly to the relevant Ticketmaster page." Source: http://www.haledorr.com/publications/internet/2000_06_e_alerts.html#Legality Short snippets below. "A recent federal court decision in California (Ticketmaster Corp. v. Tickets.com, Inc., U.S. District Court, C.D. Cal., Mar. 27, 2000) has sided with the commentators and openness, suggesting that hyperlinking, and so-called "deep linking" in particular, may, in fact, be permissible under various legal theories. In its opinion, the court addressed a number of issues surrounding deep linking. The court stated that such a hyperlink did not constitute copyright infringement, as Tickets.com did not copy any portion of the Ticketmaster site, but simply transferred the user directly to the relevant Ticketmaster page." "The court dismissed Ticketmaster's claim that deep linking violated Ticketmaster's "terms and conditions" of use, which were posted on its web site. Although these terms and conditions expressly prohibited deep linking, Ticketmaster failed to produce evidence that Tickets.com was aware of these terms. However, the court left the door open to the argument that such terms and conditions could have been violated if Ticketmaster had demonstrated that Tickets.com was aware of them. The court held that the deep linking itself did not necessarily involve unfair competition, so long as Tickets.com did not attempt to mislead users about the source of the tickets being offered by Ticketmaster. This case, though leaving some questions unanswered, suggests that the practice of hyperlinking is likely to be viewed favorably by U.S. federal courts." -----------------------------------------------------------Received on Mon Dec 11 2000 - 17:35:07 UTC
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