Vic, I take my hat off to the rhetoric. A few questions: 1) did you (or some mythical third party) make a commitment to a 'client' about when the domain delegation would take place? 2) you do have a complete record of all communications on this matter between yourself, the client and the org.au process don't you? Because if you start making this kind of noise, you better have the audit trail to back the assertions. 3) why is there a TXT record, and a whois page for lifeline.org.au dating back over 1 year, with no substantive delegation? If you wanted to alledge that lack of speed by org.au was causing grief here, you'd be on stronger ground if there was some evidence regarding the history of prior attempts to reserve, and delegate the name were known. I suspect that the truth of the matter here is a bit more complex, and less in your favour than you wish. 4) Can we see the youth suicide website now please? After all, the pages do exist online somewhere, in an ISP, and are reachable under a transitional name aren't they? I'm very unimpressed by your approach. I think the client is suffering, but as much from bad advice as from anything else. and I certainly don't see any fault in what Robert does to run a jobqueue on requests. I have had to deal with him both as a delegate and as an administrator, and I find he responds much as he is treated: with respect and clarity, and best intentions. Please don't get me wrong: I loathe real-world problems as much as the next person, but to sink to the depth of labelling people as part of the problem because the planning of a release like this is lagging is a bit obscene. From what I can see, lifeline have had over a year to persue delegation of an initial lodgement, and have had considerably more than one week to ramp up the process of getting online, and if the REAL delay on service release is DNS, it suggests some bad planning somewhere. I seem to recall hearing some news stories about youth suicide initiatives online well over a week ago. Several weeks ago in fact. Why was lodgement delayed until last week? Can I suggest that a phonecall, confirming delegation is safely expected based on proof of ownership would permit the printrun to proceed? I mean that you check that somebody, proving they ARE entitled to lifeline.org.au, can expect to get it, and that on that basis, the URL will apply at some stage? If the website hosting the service is motivated, (and if they are NS anyway) they can make the name function for local users. That should suffice for making web pages and URL's self-consistent (although if you used base-relative URLs that wouldn't be a problem) -George -- George Michaelson | DSTC Pty Ltd Email: ggm§dstc.edu.au | University of Qld 4072 Phone: +61 7 3365 4310 | Australia Fax: +61 7 3365 4311 | http://www.dstc.edu.auReceived on Tue Jul 21 1998 - 13:48:25 UTC
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