vicc§cia.net.au writes: > b) anti business sentiment amongst many of dns participants. > c) silly dns rules. I don't believe that this is as cut and dried as you believe it to be. The domain name of an organisation is more than a postal address, or a phone number. It is not arbitary. Users wish to choose specific domains because they have a specific value. As such, a domain takes on status more similar to that of a descriptive label, or trading name. At some point, someone needs to be saying "Organisation X has a legal right to use this name". Under the current system in .AU, the registrars ask the client to provide specific information. Assuming that the information provided is correct, then the registrar makes a judgement call, based on (mostly) objective criteria, that the applicant has a reasonable "claim" to the use of this label. Its not perfect, but it defensible. In the past, I suspect it was an attempt to reduce hording, or ambit claims for many domains where unpaid registrars were doing the work. Today, it is an attempt to protect the rights of entities with a legal claim to use of the label in other media. An alternative method is to step a little further back. Ask the client to specify the domain they wish to have, and have the client state that they have a legal claim to the domain. Require the client to defend any action taken by another claimant, and the registrar becomes a technical only function. We would accept the client's statement that they have a legal claim to the name, in the same way as we currently accept that the information they provide to us is true and correct. Personally, I prefer that option. Strangely, it is actually at odd with you next request: > e) lack of privacy within the sld. > the dns rules have a blatent disregard for client ownership > and the privacy of customer information, this has to stop. > the public whois db is a spamer delight. If client X reserves the domain "microsoft.asn.au", Microsoft will attempt to defend their right to the use of the name. It is naive to say "Its FCFS, let them choose another one" or "they've already got a COM.AU anyway". These organisations will defend their right to use the name in the court. The question is "who will they sue?". If there was a move to a situation where clients state "I have a right to this domain so give it to me", then we would like any disputes to not include the registrars. Therefore, there needs to be a way for potential litigants to identify the current holder of the domain. There is a social argument as well. There is a public benefit in being able to identify the owner of a domain, in order to direct complaints, or to protect against illegal hosted material. Also, in the event that a registrar goes belly up, the continuing permenance of the domain holders need to be ensured. On the other hand, as an employee of an ISP myself, I also have a concern with the way in which the aunic based domains make contact directly with the client. If one of our staff make a silly error during the submission, the rejection is cc'd to the client. Bills for renewals go to the client. Nasty threats about deregistration are sent to the client. ASN.AU and NET.AU work a little differently. The client must be the true "owner" of the domain, to ensure that they retain portability. However, if they have asked an ISP to act as their agent to register the domain, then communication should be between the registrar and the agent only. At the end of the process, the agent can inform the client that the process has been completed. All future contact should be between then registrar and the agent, unless the client specifically requests otherwise. > f) lack of sub domains under .au. > there is a clear requirement for a substantial increase > in the number of sld under .au. I'm not convinced that this is the answer. The two public meetings held by ADNA in Sydney and Melbourne of trademark stakeholders seemed fairly clear in their view. They wanted to be able to register in COM.AU, because that's where all the Big Boys are. Aestethically, I'd prefer to tell people "look, this is where you can register", but that's often difficult. I think the short term goal needs to be to clean up today's scene, and introduce competition, carefully, into the existing structure. The medium term goal is to evaluate the community demand for any additional 2LD's, and carefully deploy them into a proven competitive environment. The Nominet model is worth a look. Those interested may want to have a read of: http://www.nominet.org.uk/nominet/intro.html MMReceived on Tue Jun 23 1998 - 18:33:01 UTC
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