> For my 2 cents worth, we run the real risk of not just wasting time
> and bandwidth but of letting the democractic processes of free speech
> lead to a deterioratio of debate and loss of participation.
> I am as concerned with the ADNA processes as anyone else and despite
> the occasional lengthy whinge, i try and stay within a constructive
> framework - and i butt out when i cannot as a sign of respect for those
> who can.
> Would it make sense to call another public meeting?  i find that much

Cool *another* trip away - can we make it 24th June - lots of vested
interest could be there prior to the ISP.au conference !!!!!


> of the anger and the to-ing and fro-ing disappear or get resolved when
> people communicate face-to-face and are given the opportunity to respect
> other people (which is sometimes hard in text).  whilst this may sound
> like attempted zen, it would be a shame for all this passion and 
> energy some members display to keep getting wasted in not improving
> the situation.
> sorry if this offends anyone. i will shut up now. 




> 
> Kim Davies wrote:
> > 
> > Quoting Adam Todd:
> > |
> > | Seems the rules are:
> > | 1.  If you don't agree with IIA and the ADNA process get lost.
> > | 2.  See one above.
> > | So much for open.
> > 
> > Adam, get with the program.
> > 
> > Many people here are disillusioned with ADNA's progress.  But,
> > that is not the point.
> > 
> > The point is in the past week there has been a tide of off-topic
> > unrelated posting that has nothing to do with .au, ADNA or IIA.
> > Why can't we discuss the topic at hand rather than bitching about
> > the wrongs or rights of your alternate DNS system, or this Jeff
> > fellow who has decided to come along and discuss APNIC and gTLDs
> > (why? I do not know)
> > 
> > kim
> 
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> 
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> 
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